On Sep 30, 2012, at 2:21 PM, Platonides <platonides(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 30/09/12 03:31, Krinkle wrote:
On Sep 29, 2012, at 9:41 PM, Samuel Klein
And why is the WMF considering not providing db
replication for it?
I think you misunderstood.
Written by Erik Moeller the 25th Sep:
Chapters are autonomous organizations, and
it's WM-DE's call how much
/ whether it wants to continue to invest in infrastructure of any kind
(and the decision of funding bodies like the FDC to accept or reject
that proposition). However, for our part, we will not continue to
support the current arrangement (DB replication, hosting in our
data-center, etc.) indefinitely.
He is writing with his "WMF hat", the above 'we' refers to the WMF. So
there's no misunderstanding: The WMF has threaten to stop providing the db
That would be a really bad move to do, of course (and a gratuitous one,
since there aren't technical or financial reasons for doing that). And I
hope they won't do that.
Ah, I understand the confusion now.
If I understand correctly Samuel was talking about the (future) labs
environment, not the Toolserver. The above citation from Erik, however, is about
the Toolserver (not Labs).
Erik is saying here that WMF will (at some unspecified point in the future) stop
providing the services it is currently providing for Toolserver (such as the
space in their datacenter and arranging db replication). It does not mean they
will (or are considering to) stop providing db replication in general (just not
Maybe Samuel already knew that and he was talking about Toolserver as well, in
that case: never mind, sorry about the confusion. I just wanted to make sure you
know that there are confirmed and scheduled plans for Wikimedia Labs to have a
live db replication arranged between the labs cluster and the wmf production
cluster. As far as I know there are no considerations to not provide this, quite