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On 19.01.2014 03:21, Tim Landscheidt wrote:
These are two very different problems.
AFAICS the wiki can be moved rather easily; your mail trig- gered
me to finally create the bug from my notes written long ago :-)
). The Toolserver admins
need to decouple the wiki from the Toolserver SSO and dump users
and data, the WMF admins need to set up a (= just another) wiki
without CentralAuth (wmgUseCentralAuth = false IIRC), load users
and data, reset the/mail out new users' passwords and then
needs to be set as a CNAME for text-lb.
That is good to hear! :) Thanks for your effort regarding this.
JIRA however is much more complicated. You know from
has now been
unresolved for over three years) that few of the Toolserver admins
have time and knowledge with regard to JIRA, while in the WMF camp
they have probably zero. So compared with MediaWiki where
(security) updates will be regularly deployed with the rest of the
cluster, someone would have to keep a dedicated eye on a totally
foreign sys- tem. And we only have a free licence from Atlassian
which could at some point be discontinued. On the other hand the
benefits are very small as Merlijn wrote the fantastic JIRA/
Bugzilla importer which handles almost all cases.
Yes I know those issues... ;) It is/was a pitty...
As far as I know, the JIRA/Bugzilla importer has issues as well,
please confer https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55673
It does e.g. NOT preserve relations between tickets and thus
drops a serious amount of the history too. As I understand from
the buzilla ticket this will not be resolved.
In my oppinion 1 of the 2 problems should be tackeled;
* either keep a static copy of JIRA (may be just the DB along with
a simple viewer written by us)
* or improve JIRA/Bugzilla importer to a point where it can
migrate relations between tickets and other stuff as well
Thanks for all your comments! Greetings
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