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Robert Arustamyan

7 May 2008 7 May '08

11:45 a.m.

Hi All, I'm pleased to announce a new web service. MediaWiki2PDF - is a free online service, that allows you to generate nice looking PDF documents from books found on wikibooks.org. It looks through child pages and collects chapters and subchapters into a single, well-formatted PDF document. All you have to do, is just enter url of the book and press "Enter". From recent time service can also generates PDF-s from wikipedia articles. Visit us at http://blogpaper.com/mediawiki2pdf We hope it will be useful to you. Best Regards Blogpaper Development Team.

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Raffaele

7 May 7 May

7:53 p.m.

I saw a book -- it is beautiful, amazing! Very useful, very clear :) I'd have some questions: * Just for knowing, where does the generator take the table of content? * There are two problem, the list of contributors that should be the 2nd cover and the GFDL that should be somewhere in the book, or other licenses if they are needed. * there is another problem with images, I think because they are from Commons - can you fix it? Hi, --Ramac In data 07 maggio 2008 alle ore 11:45:03, Robert Arustamyan <robert(a)blogpaper.com> ha scritto:

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mike.lifeguard

7:59 p.m.

As well, the order of modules is wonky, at least for some books (I tried First Aid, and it is not even close to the order it should be in). Can this be specified, or is some particular format required for the PDF generator to work properly? It would be useful to have the option to specify which modules are included/excluded for certain uses, along with specifying the order modules should appear. Mike.lifeguard -----Original Message----- From: textbook-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:textbook-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Raffaele Sent: May 7, 2008 2:54 PM To: Wikimedia textbook discussion Subject: Re: [Textbook-l] MediaWiki2PDF I saw a book -- it is beautiful, amazing! Very useful, very clear :) I'd have some questions: * Just for knowing, where does the generator take the table of content? * There are two problem, the list of contributors that should be the 2nd cover and the GFDL that should be somewhere in the book, or other licenses if they are needed. * there is another problem with images, I think because they are from Commons - can you fix it? Hi, --Ramac In data 07 maggio 2008 alle ore 11:45:03, Robert Arustamyan <robert(a)blogpaper.com> ha scritto:

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Andrew Whitworth

8:10 p.m.

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:59 PM, mike.lifeguard <mike.lifeguard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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I agree with mike, you should be able to exclude certain pages (especially print version pages!) from the listing. I'm also not sure I like the way it handles templates, in some of the books I've looked at, many templates don't appear at all! the tool should also append the GFDL, if it isn't there already (some books do a good job of linking to it). The attribution for authors is a job we are all going to have to work on. --Andrew Whitworth

adam hyde

8:45 p.m.

hi I guess I cant tempt wikibooks to use twiki? long shot right? with twiki u can generate pdf from multiple books (remixing chapters from multiple books into 1 book), with a linked table of contents etc, it also attaches a cover of your choice and generates the copyright notices and attachs the license.....it does a nice job no? adam On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 14:10 -0400, Andrew Whitworth wrote:

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Peter van Londen

8:57 p.m.

Hi, 2008/5/7 adam hyde <adam(a)flossmanuals.net>et>:

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I guess I cant tempt wikibooks to use twiki? long shot right? Can I temp you to adjust the script to fit for MediaWiki? ;-)

Regards Londenp

adam hyde

9:05 p.m.

On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 20:57 +0200, Peter van Londen wrote:

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Hi, 2008/5/7 adam hyde <adam(a)flossmanuals.net>et>: I guess I cant tempt wikibooks to use twiki? long shot right? Can I temp you to adjust the script to fit for MediaWiki? ;-)

haha! no...not enough hours in the day, but if you ever want to make your life easier with twiki just let me know ;) adam

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Martin Swift

8 May 8 May

2:40 a.m.

Dear community, Haven't had the chance to check out this new tool. As some don't seem fully satisfied with the current version I thought I'd suggest the alternative of a print style sheet. This would do away with the pdf intermediary step and allow direct printing from any version. Wikibooks actually already uses a site-wide print style sheet. This can be seen in action by choosing a print-preview mode or similar in a W3C recommendations compliant browser. Cheers, Martin

Robert Arustamyan

9:14 a.m.

Andrew

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I agree with mike, you should be able to exclude certain pages (especially print version pages!) from the listing.

We are already working on it. This feature will be added in a few days.

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I'm also not sure I like the way it handles templates, in some of the books I've looked at, many templates don't appear at all!

Are you talking about mediawiki templates? If so, we generate PDF documents using html from mediawiki. We can't control what comes from there.

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the tool should also append the GFDL, if it isn't there already (some books do a good job of linking to it). The attribution for authors is a job we are all going to have to work on.

I have written about it in previous letters. It will be appended in the future version. Robert

Robert Arustamyan

9:05 a.m.

Hi Mike, The service is ordering book chapters as it finds links to subpages. Chapter order depends on the organization of the wikibook ToC, as different books are organized different ways. We will try to fix that. mike.lifeguard wrote:

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Regards. Robert

Robert Arustamyan

8:51 a.m.

Dear Raffaele,

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I saw a book -- it is beautiful, amazing! Very useful, very clear :)

Thank You, Raffaele

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* Just for knowing, where does the generator take the table of content?

The ToC is being generated by the service from page names and headings.

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* There are two problem, the list of contributors that should be the 2nd cover and the GFDL that should be somewhere in the book, or other licenses if they are needed.

Yes, I'm going to add this in the nearest future.

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* there is another problem with images, I think because they are from Commons - can you fix it?

Can you please email the description of this problem to support(a)blogpaper.com? Best Regards, Robert

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