Today I found news about a new Google project - Google Book Search. This service, available at http://books.google.com/, allows users to search for books and browse some of them online. In most cases, only parts of books are available and the whole material is copyrighted. Google Book Search also offers long description of every book, links to online stores where the book is available, possibility to search words in a single books and more features.
Currently I have not seen any books from Wikibooks there. I find this project as a real chance for Wikibooks to promote itself and its content; we should add our PDF versions there if it is possible. Google says it does not take any money for adding new books to its search engine, but I am not sure if they require ISBN number for each book.
What is your opinion on this project?
Sounds like a good idea to me. Perhaps somebody should send google an email, and see what their requirements are for including a book in the search database? It would be a great help to our project.
--Andrew Whitworth
From: "Piotr "Derbeth" Kubowicz" derbeth@wp.pl Reply-To: Wikimedia textbook discussion textbook-l@wikimedia.org To: textbook-l@wikimedia.org Subject: [Textbook-l] Google Book Search Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:49:22 +0200
Today I found news about a new Google project - Google Book Search. This service, available at http://books.google.com/, allows users to search for books and browse some of them online. In most cases, only parts of books are available and the whole material is copyrighted. Google Book Search also offers long description of every book, links to online stores where the book is available, possibility to search words in a single books and more features.
Currently I have not seen any books from Wikibooks there. I find this project as a real chance for Wikibooks to promote itself and its content; we should add our PDF versions there if it is possible. Google says it does not take any money for adding new books to its search engine, but I am not sure if they require ISBN number for each book.
What is your opinion on this project?
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Hi,
Piotr "Derbeth" Kubowicz wrote:
Today I found news about a new Google project - Google Book Search. This service, available at http://books.google.com/, allows users to search for books and browse some of them online. In most cases, only parts of books are available and the whole material is copyrighted. Google Book Search also offers long description of every book, links to online stores where the book is available, possibility to search words in a single books and more features.
Currently I have not seen any books from Wikibooks there. I find this project as a real chance for Wikibooks to promote itself and its content; we should add our PDF versions there if it is possible. Google says it does not take any money for adding new books to its search engine, but I am not sure if they require ISBN number for each book.
What is your opinion on this project?
Google only accept books from official, registered published. I don't think they will accept anything from Wikibooks or any other Wikimedia projects for that matter.
Regards,
Yann
Yann Forget wrote:
Hi,
Piotr "Derbeth" Kubowicz wrote:
Today I found news about a new Google project - Google Book Search. This service, available at http://books.google.com/, allows users to search for books and browse some of them online. In most cases, only parts of books are available and the whole material is copyrighted. Google Book Search also offers long description of every book, links to online stores where the book is available, possibility to search words in a single books and more features.
Currently I have not seen any books from Wikibooks there. I find this project as a real chance for Wikibooks to promote itself and its content; we should add our PDF versions there if it is possible. Google says it does not take any money for adding new books to its search engine, but I am not sure if they require ISBN number for each book.
What is your opinion on this project?
Google only accept books from official, registered published. I don't think they will accept anything from Wikibooks or any other Wikimedia projects for that matter.
Regards,
Yann
I have no idea what an "official, registered publisher" might be, but I don't think it is as difficult as you or others may percieve here. The point is that Wikibooks needs to get into the printed publication world, at least partially, in order for this content to be recognized. The ISBN numbers and such are stuff that I'm trying to work with, but I'm trying to go slowly on that front mainly to avoid steping too hard on too many toes.
Frankly at this point, I don't see why Google couldn't be made aware of the WikiPress project for de.wikipedia, as they do have ISBN numbers (for admittedly German langauge content). And you can order any of those books from Amazon.com or any other retail bookstore if you are interested in it.
Frankly at this point, I don't see why Google couldn't be made aware of the WikiPress project for de.wikipedia, as they do have ISBN numbers (for admittedly German langauge content). And you can order any of those books from Amazon.com or any other retail bookstore if you are interested in it.
-- Robert Scott Horning
I'm wondering if google wouldn't already be aware of the de.wikibooks published books, especially if they already do have ISBN numbers, and if they are available through amazon. I don't know any german, but maybe somebody who can speak it should do a quick books.google search for one of the published books, to see what kinds of things turn up.
--Andrew Whitworth (Whiteknight)
Dnia Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:13:15 +0200, Robert Scott Horning napisał(a):
I have no idea what an "official, registered publisher" might be, but I don't think it is as difficult as you or others may percieve here.
Perhaps we should just try and ask Wikimedia Foundation to act as a "publisher" and register in Google Books. It might be possible that having ISBN number for each book is not obligatory and there is a way to make Wikibooks texts available in Google Books.
Frankly at this point, I don't see why Google couldn't be made aware of the WikiPress project for de.wikipedia, as they do have ISBN numbers (for admittedly German langauge content). And you can order any of those books from Amazon.com or any other retail bookstore if you are interested in it.
As far as I understand, publishers are supposed to register in Google Books and submit their books - not on the other side. I think we should just inform WikiPress about Google Books, in case they don't know about this project.
Dnia Fri, 01 Sep 2006 16:48:57 +0200, Andrew Whitworth napisał(a):
I'm wondering if google wouldn't already be aware of the de.wikibooks published books, especially if they already do have ISBN numbers, and if they are available through amazon. I don't know any german, but maybe somebody who can speak it should do a quick books.google search for one of the published books, to see what kinds of things turn up.
I already made it. "Wikipedia: das Buch" gives nothing.
As I have just written, Google itself does not add any books, publishers are supposed to do it (as far as I understood from Google Books help).
BTW, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that WikiPress only prints materials from German Wikipedia. That's what they say on their website and search for term "Wikibooks" on their site gave me nothing interesting.
Dnia Fri, 01 Sep 2006 16:57:02 +0200, Piotr "Derbeth" Kubowicz napisał(a):
Perhaps we should just try and ask Wikimedia Foundation to act as a "publisher" and register in Google Books. It might be possible that having ISBN number for each book is not obligatory and there is a way to make Wikibooks texts available in Google Books.
Unfortunately, Google says that all books must have valid ISBN number. I think we have to forget about Google Books for a while.
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