OK. That pretty much answered my question.
Now if they cold only explain why the cool new logo with Wikimedia colors
was not allowed .... ;)
-Kathy
-----Original Message-----
From: Karl Wick [mailto:karlwick@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 4:39 PM
To: Wikimedia textbook discussion
Subject: Re: [Textbook-l] [Foundation-l] Rethinking brands
Kathy,
Thank you for your passion! You, like Sanford, are exactly the type of
person that I have dreamed about getting involved in the Wikibooks world.
When Wikibooks was created, it was intended (by me) to be a home to the
creation of free, open-content textbooks and other learning materials.
Curriculum is a natural extension of that.
Some time later, a sister site called Wikiversity was created, which is the
home to pretty much everything else related to teaching and education that
is not textbooks.
Both sites are housed under the Wikimedia umbrella that was started by Jimmy
Wales. So Jimmy's overall goal is to facilitate the creation of those
complete curricula and textbooks for all levels in all languages. And to
speak for him, the plan is organized this way:
Textbooks are developed and housed on Wikibooks (
). Curricula and other learning
materials, including multimedia, are to be developed and hosted on the
Wikiversity site (
).
Thank you again for your zeal and please let me know if I can help clear up
any other questions.
Karl Wick, Wikibooks co-founder
On 5/11/07, KH <kathy(a)teachernotes.org> wrote:
I agree, but I sure wish Jimbo would then redefine what he meant because
his
blog post (I believe it is his as he was filling in for Lessig) and/or
presentation is what lead me to
wikibooks.org. Just any old person saying
that wouldn't hold water with me but one of the founders? If I was led to
the understanding, there might be others.
Again, Mr. Wales needs to intervene and either denounce what he said/wrote
or help us with the issue.
-kathy
-----Original Message-----
From: Florence Devouard [mailto:Anthere9@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 3:45 PM
To: textbook-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Textbook-l] [Foundation-l] Rethinking brands
KH wrote:
I was under the impression that wikibooks would
also include textbooks
for k-12. Normally, k-3 don't have traditional texts because many are
still learning to read. Later, they read to learn. So much of the
"textbook" is really worksheets, pictures, and planned lectures and
activities. Actually, a better word to use for k-3 is curriculum, not
textbooks. But I've read we are not supposed to do curriculum.
Soooo, I'm not sure what wikibooks really is. Here is where I got my
info:
http://www.lessig.org/blog/archives/003069.shtml
Although dated 8/05, it seems Mr. Wales had a definite vision:
"The second thing that will be free is a complete curriculum (in all
languages) from Kindergarten through the University level. There are
several projects underway to make this a reality, including our own
Wikibooks project, but of course this is a much bigger job than the
encyclopedia, and it will take much longer."
Curriculum, by definition, is a package. It can include textbooks but
certain goes beyond that to worksheets, teacher planning, activities,
etc.
I would love to redo the SRA Direct Instruction
curriculum in
wikibooks so that parents AND teachers have an option for
scientificially based curriculum. But according to new definitions,
I'm not sure wikibooks is an appropriate place. Under the old
definition from the website listed above, it is.
-Kathy
Hmmm
This looks like one of the 10 points of his presentation last year at
Wikimania (10 things to become free). I am not sure it is a blog
afterwards,
or actually the transcript of his presentation.
You should be able to find a video of it somewhere on the wikimania 2006
site (or somewhere else...)
This said, wikibooks was created long before than presentation. I
certainly
do not think a presentation done in 2006 define the goal of a project
created 2 years earlier roughly.
Ant
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