And therefore people should know about it

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 5:32 PM, James Alexander <jalexander@wikimedia.org> wrote:
hmmm, sorry didn't see this earlier... While true I think it would have been more correct to say that the government was citing the law against apple in some way but probably a bit late :).

[TLDR for those that don't know the law it is actually very short (and as the date says very old) and basically says: A federal Judge can issue any order necessary in order to enforce the law] while it doesn't contain any explicit "exceptions" the constitution etc are obviously assumed. It is a catchall law for when there is no explicit law or rule that allows them to order someone to do something. In this case there is no law that congress has passed saying that Apple or a company needs to decrypt a device therefore the FBI is trying to use the All Writs act as a work around to say "but this is needed for our work Judge so you have to order them to do it".

The biggest problem with the law in general is that it is SOOOO broad, nowadays it is usually used to try and get around electronic countermeasures or other 'new technology' issues.

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On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Jeff Elder <jelder@wikimedia.org> wrote:

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Wikimedia Foundation

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Joe Sutherland <jsutherland@wikimedia.org> wrote:
The article does look good enough to post now, I think.

On 17 February 2016 at 21:34, Jeff Elder <jelder@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Apple is invoking this 1789 law against an iPhone security request from the FBI. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Writs_Act

Yes or no. 

Jeff Elder
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Wikimedia Foundation

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Victor Grigas <vgrigas@wikimedia.org> wrote:
The article has grown significantly today


and by sharing it on social, it will likely grow further.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 3:56 PM, Joe Sutherland <jsutherland@wikimedia.org> wrote:
The article kind of sucks to be honest. I'm loathe to promote it on social at this point, and I'm not sure how to condense it to 140 characters myself (seems like a kind of complicated Act, imo).

Joe


On 17 February 2016 at 20:44, Samuel Tarling <samtarling6@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree, first thing I did when I read the news today - I imagine we'll see a spike in traffic to that page

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Victor Grigas <vgrigas@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Per Apple's letter to its customers, we might want to share this on social:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Writs_Act

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