Hello Giu,

On 16 February 2017 at 02:39, Giuseppe Lavagetto <glavagetto@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hi Marko,

I looked at the document and I would have multiple patches to it; alas, I don't have time to go through it with  the needed attention right now because (as anticipated before the quarter) I have zero time to spend on this.

Ops have some experience in running a cluster orchestration system in production (for toollabs) and I have thought about it for quite some time now; I have some ideas on how things should be done to have a decent, manageable "elastic" environment with advantages for developers; I would love to integrate your document with ideas/a more general vision about production; this is probably not going to happen for at least one month though.

This is an initial draft that I have shared so as to solicit wider input from Ops and RelEng and to keep everybody on the same page as we all look at the same thing from a different angle and have different ideas about it. As you might have noticed, the list is not really detailed and it's pretty high-level. You are making a good point regarding elasticity, and I think this is something we should discuss properly.
 

Can we hold on before we declare this document to be "definitive"?

One of our Q3 goals is to come up with a list of requirements for this brave-new world of dynamicity, so we have some time to keep the discussion going.
 

Also, can we stop calling it a "container-based" infrastructure? :) I seriously think containers are little more than an implementation detail of the general vision.

"Fancy new stuff that will cure all of our problems" infra? I don't really have a preference on the name as long as we all agree on the vision for it.

Cheers,
Marko
 

Cheers,

Giuseppe

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:28 PM, Marko Obrovac <mobrovac@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hello,

In light of the upcoming annual planning for the joint technology goal of having a shared container-based infrastructure, the Services team has started collecting requirements for the platform in terms of development, testing and operation of services (together with some other considerations like automation and configuration management)~[1]. Please take a look at the document and add/remove/improve/suggest as you see fit. Note that the document is to be considered only a draft at this point.

Cheers,
Marko


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