I find very useful Dario's distinction and agree with the procedural he suggests, Mayo


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From: rcom-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [rcom-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Dario Taraborelli [dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org]
Sent: 12 December 2011 21:08
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Subject: Re: [RCom-l] The tragedy of the Commons

My feeling is that we shouldn't be conflating the two issues, as this would be confusing for the community:

1) review of Berkman banner and implementation of changes discussed on the list
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-December/070765.html

2) discussion of future approach towards SR, Omnibus survey etc

(1) needs to take place this week, I have a conference call (date/time still tbc) with the researchers and some community members, if any of you is willing to help with this please let me know off-list and I'll add you to the list of attendees.  I don't feel there's a need to host an actual RCom meeting to review the proposed changes (which seem fairly uncontroversial and will be discussed on wiki). I would rather keep this opportunity to discuss (2) and the broader implications of the Berkman incident for the future.

Dario

On Dec 12, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:

On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:50:24 -0500, Diederik van Liere

<dvanliere@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear WSC,

I think we need to be very precise about what the Berkman controversy is

about. My understanding is that the use of banners with logo's on

central

notice during the fundraiser and the kickback of donations is at the

heart

of the controversy. It is not about the legitimacy of the research

institutes, nor is it about surveys as a research methodology, or the

actual research questions. As such, I think that we need to discus how

to

to promote research studies but not debate the merits of Wikipedia

research

itself.

I think right now it is mostly about the lack of communication, and this

is what we need to discuss as well. The main objections have been

summarized at two pages on English Wikipedia,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Harvard.2FScience_Po_Adverts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Central_Notices

as well as on the Meta proposal page

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Dynamics_of_Online_Interactions_and_Behavior

Cheers

Yaroslav

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