Yes, this makes sense. Can TW output a formatted version? Anyway, I would suggest using the same dict-based format as the other translations, i.e. { 'en': lambda n: 0 if (n == 0 or n > 1) else 1, 'mk': lambda n: 0 if (n==1 or n%10=1) else 1, } etc, which would make it easy to use in python. But you probably already thought of that :-)

Sorry for going a little bit off-topic here, but I have a question: (and I think this is the best place to get a helpful answer ;) As some of you might know I'm using the trunk (not re-write) version of the framework for DrTrigonBot too. I'm thinking about a good implementation for translations. As you are switching to translatewiki I would like to do this also. The actual question is how to do so?? As far as I can see my project is not that important to need an own account on translatewiki...? Or am I wrong? May be it would make sence to include my translations into the pywikipedia bot framework directly, since I do not use that many messages... Any help or hint is greatly appreciated. Thanks and greetings! Dr. Trigon Am 26.08.2011 03:12, schrieb info(a)gno.de: > Hi Merlijn, > > I've seen it during discussion with Nikerabbit on tw.net (look at > the first LQ-threat according pywikipedia) and I am working on a > pythonic version of the plural-gettext.txt. I am using lambda > function for that like this one (for mk-wiki): plural = lambda n: > 0 if (n == 1 or n%10 == 1) else 1 I think this is the easiest > way. But we have a remaining problem found on table2wiki. Now we > have 3 messages. One message is used if we have no warning, and > we have two messages either for one or a lot of warnings. I guess > we could keep the first "table2wiki-no-warning" message and merge > the two messages "table2wiki-one-warning" and > "table2wiki-warnings" using {{Plural:}} tag. It is also possible > to use the first message every time and append the warning > message if needed. > > Greetings > > > ----- Original Nachricht ---- Von: Merlijn van Deen > <valhallasw(a)arctus.nl> An: > pywikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Datum: 25.08.2011 19:46 > Betreff: Re: [Pywikipedia-l] [Pywikipedia-svn] SVN: [9448] > trunk/pywikipedia/pywikibot/i18n.py > >> Hello xqt, >> >> On 21 August 2011 15:49, <xqt(a)svn.wikimedia.org> wrote: >> >>> + value. At the moment, we have only one plural_func = x: >>> x!= 1 yet. Multiple + PLURAL tags are not supported >>> (yet). >>> >> >> Good to see you're working on plural support. Have you seen >> http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Translate/data/pl >> >>

>> , which lists the plural possibilities for each language. >> Unfortunately, python does not support the a ? b : c notation, >> so it's not possible to copy the code 1-on-1. >> >> Alternatively, there is >> http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Translate/data/pl >> >>

>> , but that is fairly unreadable IMO. >> >> Good luck! >> >> Best, Merlijn >> >> >> -------------------------------- >> >> _______________________________________________ Pywikipedia-l >> mailing list Pywikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikipedia-l >> > > Arcor empfiehlt: Mal über die Karriere nachdenken! Wissenswertes > und Nützliches finden Sie hierzu unter > http://www.arcor.de/content/finanzen_job/job_karriere/bewerbung_karriere/ra… > > >

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On 28 August 2011 13:27, Dr. Trigon <dr.trigon(a)surfeu.ch> wrote: At the moment, there is not really an obvious answer for scripts not in svn, as all translations are stored in svn. I'm not sure if it's possible to create translations on translatewiki.net for keys that are not already in svn. If this is possible, the most reasonable solution to me would be this: 1) follow the guide to translating ( http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/pywikipedia-l/2011-January/006632.html) 2) use keys starting with 'thirdparty-drtrigon'; i.e. thirdparty-drtrigon- 3) if you can create the keys on translatewiki: do that. if not: b) submit a bug report to get your translations in svn, so they can be translated There might be some problems with the location of translation files, however (I think pywikipedia will search them in the i18n subfolder based on the script you are running, which will fail if your scripts are not in the same location as the other pywikipedia scripts). Might be solveable with some symlinks, though. Best, Merlijn -------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Pywikipedia-l mailing list Pywikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikipedia-l

From time to time the i18n dictionaries are created and backported to pwb svn.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 First thanks Merlijn and xqt for you answers!! In order to get one step further I tried to follow Merlijn hints: (http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/pywikipedia-l/2011-January/006632.html ) Ok. BUT I did the migration by hands (since it's the first one) as visible in [1] and when going further to create and upload a script to i18n folder I got stuck: - - I'm using the trunk not the rewrite; the guide uses rewrite and I cannot find the files in i18n directory in trunk, just the i18n.py in pywikibot but not the mentioned 'i18n.<package>'... - - I do not have commit access - - I wonder what does happen now with the translations on TW? Do they get synced into the i18n folder? ...or what's the idea? As mentioned I created a bunch of keys, this works which is good! Yes - in fact I though about something like this too. ;) But could become very tricky... ;) In my opinion it is (more or less) since I am using it... ;) But I do not know what are your demands on quality... I think you have to decide whether my code fits or not... I have also to admit that I cannot spend the same amount of time in support and developpment as desirable. Both sound intressing, can you may be elaborate some further details on this? [1] http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3APrefixIndex&prefix=Thi… ty-drtrigonbot&namespace=1238 Thanks a lot for your detailed explanations and Greetings Dr. Trigon _______________________________________________ Pywikipedia-l mailing list Pywikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikipedia-l