2012/5/9 <koltzenburg@w4w.net>

thanks, Morten:

> if you know how to program in Python

well, I don't, ... not yet, that is,
one reason why I came here to ask :-)

my favourite is b.:
a. find the time and set the priorities to do it myself
b. ask sb else to support me by programming this query
c. follow a different kind of interest and not rely on the Wikipedia community

anyone up for b.?

thanks
C.

On Tue, 8 May 2012 11:00:22 -0500, Morten Wang wrote
> Claudia asked:
> > Q: being in none of the special Wikipedia roles, which of these ideas would I be able to try out by
myself?
>
> All the metadata is available through the Wikipedia API, and the
> Pywikipediabot framework makes a lot of it easily accessible, so if
> you know how to program in Python, it's doable :)
>
> Cheers,
> Morten
>
> On 8 May 2012 10:40, <koltzenburg@w4w.net> wrote:
> > hi Bináris, Merlijn, Alchimista, and Morten,
> >
> > thank you very much
> > does anyone of you remember hearing a very new type of song, and being fascinated for sure but not
quite
> > trusting your ears?
> >
> > btw, on his talk page yesterday, JAn came up with an idea that sounds like "new song" to me, too:
> > http://cs.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?
title=Diskuse_s_wikipedistou:JAn_Dudík&diff=8497947&oldid=8497773
> >
> > Morten said
> >> Hope some of this helps, let me know if there's any questions.
> >
> > I guess there are, Morten, thanks :-)
> >
> > Q: being in none of the special Wikipedia roles, which of these ideas would I be able to try out by
myself?
> >
> > btw, thanks for asking @Morten,
> >
> > cheers,
> > Claudia
> >
> > On Tue, 8 May 2012 10:01:23 -0500, Morten Wang wrote
> >> I did some data gathering last fall that is more or less the same as
> >> Claudia is asking about. Looking up the bot flag, or checking the
> >> username is often regarded as a reasonable way of filtering out the
> >> bots. I chose to apply both, if there's no bot flag we look for a
> >> typical bot signature in the username (regex: "bot$| ", username
> >> either ends with bot or a part of it does), and used a
> >> case-insensitive match since some users have usernames like "FoObOt".
> >>
> >> Checking the edit history to find when interwiki links were first
> >> added can be time-consuming if the page had lots of activity. I
> >> therefore chose to use a binary search, halving the distance between
> >> two test points until either the actual edit is found, or we're down
> >> to so few edits that all can be efficiently grabbed through the API
> >> (e.g. using Pywikibot's PreloadingGenerator). Otherwise you might be
> >> examining thousands of edits for no reason.
> >>
> >> Having Toolserver access simplifies the process a lot since all the
> >> metadata is more easily accessible, but the revision text will still
> >> have to be grabbed from the API.
> >>
> >> Hope some of this helps, let me know if there's any questions.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Morten
> >>
> >> On 8 May 2012 08:39, Bináris <wikiposta@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > 2012/5/8 Merlijn van Deen <valhallasw@arctus.nl>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> This is not completely true - the bot flag is also a property of the
> >> >> user account. You can query e.g.
> >> >>
> >> >> http://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?
> > title=Speciaal:Gebruikerslijst&offset=&limit=500&group=bot&uselang=en
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Yes, that's true. And if you want to be quite accurate, you must also
> >> > determine the date of acquiring the bot flag from bureau logs and compare it
> >> > to the page history. :-)
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Bináris
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Claudia
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