https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58820
Web browser: --- Bug ID: 58820 Summary: PYWP-2 Multilingual development (jira testing) Product: Pywikibot Version: unspecified Hardware: All OS: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: minor Priority: Unprioritized Component: General Assignee: Pywikipedia-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org Reporter: wmf.bugconverter@gmail.com Classification: Unclassified Mobile Platform: ---
This issue was converted from https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/PYWP-2. Summary: Multilingual development (jira testing) Issue type: New Feature - A new feature of the product, which has yet to be developed. Priority: Minor Status: Open Assignee: Merlijn van Deen valhallasw@arctus.nl
On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:35:58, Merlijn van Deen valhallasw@arctus.nl opened the following bug:
(copied from the original report at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1768728&gro... ) English speaking at end ==Francais== Texte d'origine Bonjour Je voudrais vous proposer un système qui permet de rendre le robot multilingue. En effet, tous les messages envoyé à la console sont anglophone. Or le but d'un robot est de s'adapter à la multitude des languages pouvant exister de la part des utilisateurs. C'est pour cela que je vous propose le système suivant : Création d'un nouveau répertoire 'lang'. Dans ce répertoire s'y trouverait des fichiers de type XX.py (XX étant le code ISO 639 de la langue). Donc ce répertoire contiendra 1 ficher par code de langue existant. Lorsque les différents programmes veulent afficher un message sur la console, la commande utilisé est très souvent 'wikipedia.output' ou 'wikipedia.input'. Le travail de cette commande serait d'appeller le fichier xx.py avec le numéro du message à renvoyer en paramètre, le choix du xx serait donnée par la variable mylang de user-config.py. le fichier xx.py enverrais alors le message à afficher en tenant compte des différentes variables de type %s (ou autre) bien entendu Exemple : dans user-config.py, j'ai "mylang = 'fr'" Replace.py à la ligne 375 contient la commande "wikipedia.input(u'Please enter the new text:')", Le nouveau système coderait "wikipedia.input(u'Please enter the new text:')" par "wikipedia.input.message(284)" appelerait donc lang/fr.py et lui demanderais de lui retourner le message n° 284 qui serait "s'il vous plais, entrez le nouveaux texte :" et le lui retourne. Voila, en esperant avoir compris ma demande. Je vous remercie de votre écoute ==English== Text translates since French by a machine translation system Hello I would like to propose you a system which allows to return the multilingual robot. Indeed, all the messages messenger in the console are English-speaking. Now the purpose of a robot is to adapt itself to the multitude of the languages which can exist on behalf of the users. It is for it that I propose you the following system: Creation of a new directory ' lang '. In this directory would be files of type XX.py (XX there being the code ISO 639 of the language). Thus this directory will contain 1 file by existing code of language. When the various programs want to post a message on the console, the order used is very often ' wikipedia.output ' or ' wikipedia.input '. The work of this order would be to call the xx.py file with the number of the message to be sent back in parameter, the choice of the xx would be given by the mylang variable to user-config.py The xx.py file would send then the message to be posted(shown) by taking into account various variables of type %s (or other) naturally Example: In user- config.py, I have " mylang = ' fr ' " Replace.py in the line 375 contains the command " wikipedia.input (u' Please enter the new text: ') ", The new system would code " wikipedia.input (u' Please enter the new text: ') "by" wikipedia.input.message (284) " call thus lang/fr.py and would ask it to return it the message n° 284 which would be " s'il vous plais, entrez le nouveaux texte : ". Here we are, by hoping to have understood my demand. I thank you for your listening
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--- Comment #1 from Bugzilla Bug Importer (valhallasw) wmf.bugconverter@gmail.com --- On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 08:47:53, Pietrodn powerpdn@gmail.com wrote:
This is a very good idea! I can help with the Italian translation. :-) Pietrodn
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--- Comment #2 from Bugzilla Bug Importer (valhallasw) wmf.bugconverter@gmail.com --- On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:23:14, Purodha Blissenbach sso.ts.wikimedia.org@publi.purodha.net wrote:
This was a major task. I support it, only suggesting to maybe think about naming, rather than numbering, the messages: - there should be an easy way to determine that a message is, or messages are, not being used any more. - there should be an easy way to find out, where messages are being used (grep for a name is usually better than grep for a number) I suggest to make the user-config variable mylang a list: mylang='de', ''fr', 'it', e.g. would return German (de) unless a message was not translated, else it would try Francais (fr), else Italiano (it) and if all else fails use English by default. I can add translations to de, ksh (native), nds (at least parts) Should not this be treated on the pywikipediabot feature request bug tracker at https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93107&atid=603141
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--- Comment #3 from Bugzilla Bug Importer (valhallasw) wmf.bugconverter@gmail.com --- On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:24:00, Merlijn van Deen valhallasw@arctus.nl wrote:
With the TranslateWiki i18n in place, we should be able to implement this fairly simply. However, we might consider using a gettext-like interface for this (i.e. using _("English sentence") instead of i18n.twtranslate(lang, 'tw-code')). The _()-like interface is much clearer when writing code. Additionally, we should have a way to automatically, or at least easily, translate log files from, say, French, to English. It makes debugging hard to impossible when handling localized texts. Maybe a dual-language output? Last, but not least, do we actually want this? How do we handle non-english bug reports? Etc. It's a more philosophical question, though ;-)
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