Hi,

I encountered what I believe is the same issue as others. This happens on my integraality tool with entirely read-only operations, without any hits on the Query service.

I filed <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244030> with my investigations and the tracing showing how Pywikibot spent over 25 minutes doing a page.templatesWithParams().

Hope that helps,

-- Jean-Fred

Le ven. 31 janv. 2020 à 18:32, AntiCompositeNumber <anticompositenumber@gmail.com> a écrit :
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243701

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:01 AM Albert Villanova del Moral
<albertvillanova@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Have you finally created a ticket for this issue? It is very annoying: sometimes, more than 30 minutes "sleeping".
>
> Regards,
> Albert.
>
> Albert VILLANOVA DEL MORAL
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> Email: albert.villanova@gmail.com
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>
> Missatge de Amir Sarabadani <ladsgroup@gmail.com> del dia ds., 25 de gen. 2020 a les 23:55:
>>
>> I would recommend creating a ticket against search platform team as this is due to WDQS nodes being behind Wikidata's production.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 11:27 PM Strainu <strainu10@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I can confirm the throttling is caused by Wikidata. Not sure why I
>>> didn't see it before, as I was using that api query that you gave
>>> above. Are there some (known) issues currently or should I log a bug
>>> on this?
>>>
>>> Strainu
>>>
>>> În dum., 26 ian. 2020 la 00:01, Amir Sarabadani <ladsgroup@gmail.com> a scris:
>>> >
>>> > It should be accessible in https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/000000156/wikidata-dispatch?orgId=1&refresh=1m&fullscreen&panelId=22 but I'm not sure why other types of max lag is not showing up.
>>> >
>>> > You can also check maxlag like this: https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=MediaWiki&format=json&maxlag=-1
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 10:53 PM Strainu <strainu10@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Actually, now that you mention it, it might be because of wikidata -
>>> >> I read stuff from there in all affected scripts. If I get throttled
>>> >> there 5s for each element, this might account for the long delays. Let
>>> >> me see if I can print some debug data. Any suggestion on what I should
>>> >> look for regarding Wikidata lag?
>>> >>
>>> >> În sâm., 25 ian. 2020 la 23:48, Strainu <strainu10@gmail.com> a scris:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > All sites. Currently I also encounter other issues (connection
>>> >> > timeouts), but the throttling has been going on for days (at least
>>> >> > since 1/20).
>>> >> >
>>> >> > În sâm., 25 ian. 2020 la 23:46, Amir Sarabadani <ladsgroup@gmail.com> a scris:
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > Is it Wikidata only it's all sites? Wikidata uses another set of measures for maxlag, like lag between dispatching to other wiki and lag to WDQS.
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > HTH
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 10:40 PM Strainu <strainu10@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> Hi,
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> In the last few days my bots get throttled for minutes and minutes (up
>>> >> > >> to 10, on the worse instances) on basically all sites I use (ro.wp,
>>> >> > >> commons, wikidata). I knew about write throttle and I use the default
>>> >> > >> setting there, but it seems that now I get throttled on read
>>> >> > >> operations as well. I use pwb from git, currently synced at
>>> >> > >> 0924e1655ef9e61c86e98884226b18d8250da368.
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> I checked the server lag and it is 0 most times I see the throttling.
>>> >> > >> Any idea why do I get throttled for such long periods of time?
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> Thanks,
>>> >> > >>   Strainu
>>> >> > >>
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>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
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