Bear in mind Pine that the RTBF request need not be from the subject of the article (so
BLP & NPOV are less relevant), it could be someone mentioned peripherally. The link
suppression would also only relate to search terms about /that/ person, rather than the
main subject, just to muddy the waters: It's closer to deleting an index term than it
is deleting a book (or chapter). The pages/chapter would still be indexed, just not
against the specific terms relating to the requester. Looks like it might be possible to
work some of them out e.g.
Simon
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Advocacy Advisors] Transparency and "right to be
forgotten" notices from search engines
I see how you could read it that way, but remember that to be included on Wikipedia
information should be notable and written in NPOV fashion, and the BLP policy applies. If
someone wants to contest information in their BLP we have more subtle tools for handling
disputes than pure removal, although sometimes we will remove content.
Pine
On Aug 6, 2014 3:05 PM, "Trillium Corsage" <trillium2014(a)yandex.com>
wrote:
I see I am not the only one who noticed what WMF Legal
is doing, but I
see it a different way than Nathan. I see it as the WMF intimidating
and threatening those EU individuals who dare to to exercise their
rights under the court's ruling. Brigham and Paulson are basically saying "just
try it.
We will Streisand you."
Trillium Corsage
06.08.2014, 16:11, "Nathan" <email clipped>:
Thanks very much for this, Stephen and the legal
team. I especially
appreciate that the WMF has decided to make public the specific
notifications of the use of the "Right to be forgotten" in the
EU.[1]
It's
interesting that the bulk of the suppression
requests have come from
a single (ex?) Wikimedian targeting internal process pages of his
home
wiki.
Not shockingly, the RtF request is now in the top
5 results on a
Google search of that persons name.
The NY Times covered the transparency report:
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/08/06/wikipedia-details-government-
data-requests/?src=twr
[1]:
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Notices_received_from_search_engi
nes
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Stephen LaPorte <email clipped>
wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> The “right to be forgotten” has been the subject of much
> discussion and debate (including on this list),[1] particularly
> following the May
European
> Court of Justice judgment ordering Google to
delist some links
> related
to a
> Spanish citizen.[2] Since then, search
engines have been receiving
requests
> to remove hundreds of thousands of URLs from
search results.
> Google recently released more information about its right to be
> forgotten requests.[3]
>
> The WMF legal team has been watching the “right to be forgotten”
> issue closely and considering what legal strategies we should take
> going
forward.
> Today, the WMF published its first
transparency report[4]—you can
> read
more
> in this blog post.[5] WMF held a press
briefing announcing our
strategy of
> advocacy and transparency on link
censorship. We will oppose what
> we
see as
> a misguided court decision that has resulted
in a crude
> implementation
of
> the “right to be forgotten.” Lila has also
issued a statement,[6]
> and, Geoff, WMF’s general counsel, and Michelle Paulson, WMF's
> legal
counsel,
> have published a blog on the subject.[7] As
the topic is of
> interest to this group, we wanted to keep you informed of these
> recent legal developments.
>
> Thanks,
> Stephen
>
> [1]
>
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/advocacy_advisors/2014-June/00054
7.html
,
>
>
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/advocacy_advisors/2014-June/00053
9.html
> [2]
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX:62012CJ0131
> [3]
>
https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/file/d/0B8syaai6SSfiT0EwRUFyOE
NqR3M/edit
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/08/06/wikimedia-foundation-releases-fi
rst-transparency-report/
> [6]
>
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/08/06/european-court-decision-punches-
holes-in-free-knowledge/
> [7]
>
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/08/06/wikipedia-pages-censored-in-euro
pean-search-results/
>
> --
> Stephen LaPorte
> Legal Counsel
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
> *NOTICE: As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal
> and ethical reasons, I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a
> lawyer
for,
> community members, volunteers, or staff
members in their personal
capacity.
For more
on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer>.*
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