El 16/10/13 22:42, Luis Villa escribió: Hi Luis! In countries where we have no Freedom of Panorama, like Argentina and Uruguay, Copyright Reform is really needed for projects like Commons. Most of the proposed reforms, like L&E for Blind people or for libraries are not fundamental to the scope of Wikimedia projects, but I guess we, at least, should join the efforts for a better copyright law and the freedom of culture, which, in the end is our main goal. Regards from Buenos Aires! Bea

2013/10/17 Luis Villa <lvilla(a)wikimedia.org>rg>: Each and every one is important, I would like to add the following: - Copyright status of government works / official works (if done correctly, useful for all projects including Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons, think https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthrise) - Database rights (A mostly European madness, should be repealed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_Directive) -- Mathias Schindler Projektmanager Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. web: http://www.wikimedia.de mail: mathias.schindler(a)wikimedia.de Ceterum censeo opera officiales esse liberandam - http://urheberrecht.wikimedia.de/ Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

Hi all, Here's a little bit of history: When talking about efforts within the EU, we originally started with a very long list that was put together in various brainstorming sessions over the years, some of them as far back as 2009 [1]. It looked something like this: - Reproductions of 2D works --> should make sure that the law/regulations are very clear that this is not a new work - Database rights - Software patents - Exceptions to circumvent rules (disability-DRM, archives etc) - Copyright on government works and publicly funded works - Incentives for Open Government Data - Orphan works (when the copyright owner cannot be identified) - Public sector information - Stated purpose for copyright and limit to that (art, sciences, creativity, innovation) - Shorten duration of copyright - Raising threshold for the required added creativity to have copyright - Commissioning studies of copyright impact - Collecting societies and Creative Commons: impact on collection societies when works are freely licensed (surtax, restrictions on their members) - Freedom of panorama/Panoramafreiheit (and cross-border compatibility) - Principle of the applying the most flexible law within the EU - General data protection regulation (and right to be forgotten) At a meeting last April, we saw the need to distill it and focus our efforts, whereby we concentrated somewhat on the things that seemed feasible (a new, global document we're talking about would concentrate on the fundameltal issues). Our current EU-related policy wishlist looks like this: - Government created works as part of the Public Domain (after a discussion, we decided that Open Access falls under this category, i.e. we also support the publishing of scientific works unde free licenses) - Freedom of Panorama - Orphan Works As I already said, this is a list born out of our meeting in April [2] and the question was to pick the low hanging fruits within the EU legislative framework. For a global position, we would need to think long-term and more fundamentally. Im my opinion things like copyright term (freezing or shortening) must be included. Best, Dimi [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_lobby#Wikimania.2C_August_2009.2C_Buenos… [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_Policy/Big_Fat_Brussels_Meeting/minutes 2013/10/17 Luis Villa <lvilla(a)wikimedia.org>

On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: I would announce it here (and on wikimedia-l when we have some momentum) but the actual drafting and discussion should be on-wiki, I would think? Along those lines, it would be awesome if all the great feedback on this thread late last week were migrated to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Liberating_laws (though maybe the page should be renamed?) so the knowledge isn't lost. Luis -- Luis Villa Deputy General Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6810 NOTICE: *This message may be confidential or legally privileged. If you have received it by accident, please delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity.*

Hi again, 2013/10/23 Luis Villa &lt;lvilla(a)wikimedia.org&gt; I moved the page to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Reform and added all the points from this thread. Since the list was really long and many items were near identical, I tried, in a second step, to condense it by defining general/universal goals rather than specific ones. In a third step we will need to think really hard about what to prioritise and what could be dropped from the list, since the most valuable resource is attention and focus. We can't go ahead with a 20 point list, at least not as part of a general policy statement. Dimi

So, I will make the first pitch and suggest the following list, based on everything I have read so far: *Fundamental goals:* Shorten (or prevent extension) of copyright terms Raising treshhold for required added creativity Standardised limitations and exceptions Opt-in copyright system (like patent law) *Issue-oreiented goals:* Government Works (We need to discuss the relationship between government works/publicly funded works and what we want to go for.) Freedom of Panorama Orphan Works Open Access/Open Educational Resources (in OA we want freely licensed content, therefore I am grouping these two together) As we're talking about a possible policy statement calling for a copyright reform, I am strictly excluding all issues like censorship and FoI (important, but not copyright). Now, disucss! :) Dimi 2013/10/23 Luis Villa &lt;lvilla(a)wikimedia.org&gt;

Hello Dimi and Bea, I agree, this is great start for a conversation. I posted the list to a talk page on Meta, so we can keep track of your suggestions: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Advocacy Feel free to add to the list, discuss, or re-organize. Stephen On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Beatriz Busaniche &lt;bea(a)vialibre.org.ar&gt;wrote;wrote: -- Stephen LaPorte Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation *For legal reasons, I may only serve as an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation. This means I may not give legal advice to or serve as a lawyer for community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity.*