I think the lead from Mozilla on this appears to be Gervase Markham. He  mentioned yesterday he's been in touch with you so that's excellent news! He's very smart and very bright so it's great to have him involved. Mozilla seem to be trying to work out the areas of copyright that are most important to them. Not sure they will match with ours, I expect them to go quite hard on digital rights management as Mozilla's open source nature makes it harder for them to do things like play video directly in browser (Google and MS both own closed source DRM related stuff they can use in Firefox and IE - that's about the extent of my technical understanding). But there may be other areas where their aims are directly aligned with our identified priorities.

I agree with that last point Dimi, definitely. That's where, in my thinking, the Open Coalition comes in. The project is bringing those groups together, along with other groups and individuals interested in open in all its forms. My vision for the project was that eventually the Coalition and the FKAGEU would have very close links and work very closely together, acting as a loud and coherent voice for the open movement.

For anyone who may have missed it, the OC mailing list is at open-coalition@googlegroups.com and all are welcome. Also visit the new website at open-coalition.org and of course, the ubiquitous Twitter - @opencoalition 

Thanks everyone,

Stevie

On 12 February 2015 at 10:23, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com> wrote:
Great, Stevie, thank you!

I've talking to someone from Mozilla in the UK recently and they asked me about our advocacy activities. It seems like they're going to get active which is good news for us. We should definitely help them and reach out to them at the same time.

I do think that there are four movements that should work closely together on net politics - Wikimedia, Mozilla, Open Knowledge and OpenStreetMap.

Dimi

2015-02-12 10:46 GMT+01:00 Stevie Benton <stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.uk>:
Hello everyone,

Yesterday afternoon I attended a workshop run by our friends at Open Rights Group. The attendees were a diverse bunch, including some copyright experts, lawyers, a librarians' group, Mozilla and others, including a group that I hadn't heard of called Article 39.

Much of the discussion was highly technical and slightly out of scope with what we are doing in that area but there were some interesting takeaways. 

Julia Reda's paper (https://pub.juliareda.eu/copyright_evaluation_report.pdf - she's an MEP from the PIrate Party) received a lot of attention and there were some concerns over the wording around the open norm. It's complicated but the feeling was it needs to be rewritten slightly.

There was a great deal of surprise about the situation as it relates to Freedom of Panorama, especially when I gave the example of the European Parliament in Strasbourg. 

One really interesting point - Mozilla are going to be viewing copyright reform as an important area for them over the coming year. They are currently analysing the current situation to work out where best to focus their energy to get outcomes favourable to their aims. I don't think they are yet sure what are is most important to them. Will be interesting to keep an eye on in the coming months. 

The latter points of the workshop were given over to Digital Rights Management. At this point it became extremely technical and I didn't understand much of it. I will keep an eye out for the notes from ORG and circulate when they are published. 

Thank you,

Stevie

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