Op 13 mrt. 2021, om 22:56 heeft Ciell Wikipedia <ciell.wikipedia@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Bernd,

We have several years of broadcasts of DWDD, of populair daily show on Dutch national tv (public service) available on Commons - and a lot of derived stills from all the guests. Until at one point, they stopped using the free license on YT, so maybe this was per mistake? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:De_Wereld_Draait_Door

Yes, I had contact with them and it was by accident, but their legal team was not unwilling. However, the Dutch public broadcasting organisation NPO doesn’t allow publications under Creative Commons. Reason is that it is produced with public money and therefore the public broadcasting organisations viewpoint is that it is unethical to give it away for free...

Another reason is that they need permission for each work by the Dutch government to publish it under a free license as it can be seen as a ‘commercial activity’ (distribution of content that might economical disturb other video content providers). Public broadcasters in the Netherlands are not allowed to have commercial activities unless they have a permission for such exception case by case by the national government.

Universiteit van Nederland (on YT and now also on Spotify), seems like the same story: new content is only available for NC-restrictions.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Videos_from_the_Universiteit_van_Nederland
they switched from cc-by to youtube license as they said a third party was misusing their content.


The Dutch institute for Sound and Vision donated a lot of old news broadcasts in 2014 already: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Polygoonjournaal
They only donated the public domain ones.

Hannolans (in cc:) is a frequent importer of Dutch language videos from YT to Commons: maybe he knows about present day projects.

We have Drugslab, published by BNNVARA on youtube that is published under CC-BY


Vriendelijke groet,
Ciell


Op vr 12 mrt. 2021 om 17:31 schreef Bernd Fiedler <bernd.fiedler@wikimedia.de>:
Hello to all of you!

tl;dr: I'm searching for suggestions / partners in approaching public broadcasters. They could provide free content. Let's tell them all about it!

As you know, the international language communities in the Wikimedia Projects have adapted and built upon the content provided by the ZDF (biggest Public Service Broadcaster in Germany). There are dubbed versions available in English, Dutch, Welsh and Esperanto. There are subtitles available in numerous other languages.

Read more (3 min read) in this Wikimedia Foundations Blogpost
or find more detailed "lessons learned" here (30 minutes talk + Q&A @rc3 )

The international public broadcasters can benefit from the experiences we've made here. They should now follow the leadership of various cultural institutions like the Dutch Rijksmuseum who make their content more visible and beneficial to artists and educators worldwide and licence it freely. In a time of crisis, we can learn together.

So... I know of some Institutions who already tried out stuff with Creativecommons. But I don't want to approach international broadcasters w/o consulting with you first. Maybe there's already some cooperation on other projects going on that I should know about or you know exactly the people to talk to.

If not, I'll just be sending mails and calls all over the place and hope to wake up the right people. But everything is more fun if we do it together ;)

Sincerely yours,
Bernd
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