after the first round of talks passed, here's some interim notes and
thoughts I've had so far:
1. The Commission is rather willing to talk openly about PDGov and FoP
2. On PDGov it is not sure whether it can be included in a Directive
(which is aimed at member states). More likely if it is a regulation. If it
is a non-legislative took, it is clear that it must be something bigger
than the current re-use decision, which isn't really implemented and
doesn't secure the upstream content to be free (i.e. bought content must be
procured to be under a free license)
3. The standard initial reaction to exceptions remains NC. We must put
some effort to remedy that and always (!) explain why NC doesn't work. I am
always giving out the relevant brochure.
4. We must figure out how much money Belgian, French and Italian
collecting societies make by licensing postcards of buildings, if any at
all. If it is astonishingly low, we'd have an even better case.
5. What makes people in Brussels more weary in general is that things
tend to get blocked by the member states. Looking at FoP, it would be good
to get into position to lobby especially Belgium, France and Italy.
6. Anyone knows the history of FoP and what the historical arguments for
its introduction were? I was asked about it directly already. I found some
Bavarian law from 1840 as the first example, I assume it was about giving
painters the freedom to pain public squares...
I would expect a legislative text before summer and some time spend on
figuring out how the two relevant Commissioners will interact.
2014-11-07 16:29 GMT+01:00 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <
Oh, here the Link:
Greetz from Warsaw
2014-11-07 16:20 GMT+01:00 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <
> Hi again,
> since we're trying to be the most transparent thing out there let's
> give it a shot without password protection. I mean, the question we want to
> ask aren't a secret. Maybe some of the answers will be, but we can deal
> with that when we get there.
> I set up an etherpad with some notes. Feel free to add/edit/remove
> questions/comments and of course re-shuffle the order. It is hard to
> preview how a conversation will go, but it helps having a pool of good
> ideas and spot on questions in your arsenal.
> Thanks for participating!
> 2014-11-07 9:59 GMT+01:00 Jens Best <jens.best(a)wikimedia.de>de>:
>> etherpad would be great.
doesn't offer pw-protection, but then
>> again, collecting questions there isn't really much more public then doing
>> it here on this mailinglist.
>> 2014-11-07 9:55 GMT+01:00 L.Gelauff <lgelauff(a)gmail.com>om>:
>> if you have already a list of questions/topics, it would be easier to
>>> spot gaps. Maybe start an etherpad or something (assuming you want it
>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <
>>> dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> next week I am having three meetings in the European Commission
>>>> lined up: copyright unit, counterfeiting&piracy unit and the cabinet
>>>> Jean-Claude Juncker. The main reason I was scheduled is our position
>>>> on EU copyright reform, which will, presumably, also be the main focus
>>>> the conversation.
>>>> I want to ask this group if there are any specific questions you'd
>>>> like me to ask? Any concrete examples or issues you'd like raised?
>>>> course, I can't promise I'll get the chance to ask everything,
but I can
>>>> try. Also, chances are that someone here has much better questions than
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