1. In a time where net neutrality is under massive attack, “do it like Chile“ isn't what really helps to sustain a clear and important principle. It is basically still undermining net neutrality in a fundamental way by implementing different standards to different data at the level of the general user experience.
It is still a marketing trick to lure new paying users to the mobile providers, because every source link out of Wikipedia Zero needs payment.
2. “globally shared meta concept", well, Lila made a good point by pointing out that the question/the understanding of a public sphere in the web isn't really good developed. This could be the chance to develop a concept and a campaign which would allow to stop the damaging Wikipedia Zero project and start/support action to implement a public sphere which could include Wikipedia.
That could be a way to bring free knowledge to more people without damaging important rules of a free and open web.
Jens
2014-09-22 22:55 GMT+02:00 Jens Best <jens.best@wikimedia.de>:
> Well,
>
> one special exception in one country doesn't put away the fact that
> Wikipedia Zero is damaging the struggle to keep net neutrality an basic
> principle around the world.
My understanding was that the possibility of having
Wikipedia Zero treated as a special exception of Net Neutrality laws
was considered unrealistic. My understanding is also that Chile has a
strong net neutrality law in place.
Trying to replicate this situation in other countries would still put
the movement
in a position of "opposing net neutrality"? In principle we could
advocate all over the world to "do like Chile".
> Wikipedia Zero is undermining globally the activities of NGOs, activists and
> other entities against commercial and some governmental interests which
> would like to weaken/destroy net neutrality.
>
> Wikipedia Zero is an argument against net neutrality in the hands of its
> enemies. With Wikipedia Zero the foundation is endangering its position in
> the digital civil rights movement as seen at the IGF in Istanbul recently.
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> Without any globally shared meta concept Wikipedia Zero stays to be a welcomed marketing trick for mobile providers.
A "globally shared meta concept" of ... what?
C
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