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Today's Topics:

   1. ORG UK campaign & petition mention Wikipedia (Andy Mabbett)
   2. Re: ORG UK campaign & petition mention Wikipedia (Owen Blacker)
   3. Re: ORG UK campaign & petition mention Wikipedia
      (Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2021 16:46:35 +0100
From: Andy Mabbett <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk>
Subject: [Publicpolicy] ORG UK campaign & petition mention Wikipedia
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ORG UK are objecting to the UK government's proposed Online Safety
Bill; there's a petition [1] and they say:

"the appointment of a state speech regulator - appointed and directed
by government - will create a sprawling bureaucracy of speech police.
The Home Office and the DCMS will direct what speech must be removed,
filtered and monitored... the Bill’s provisions to block websites,
apps, or services which refuse to cooperate with the speech
regulator’s orders could put household names like Wikipedia, Reddit
and Tumblr in the crosshairs"

Does WMF have a position on this? Has there been any contact with ORG?
[I've put the same question to WMUK, separately]

[1] https://action.openrightsgroup.org/stop-state-censorship-online-speech

--
Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2021 19:21:40 +0100
From: Owen Blacker <owen@openrightsgroup.org>
Subject: [Publicpolicy] Re: ORG UK campaign & petition mention
        Wikipedia
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For what it's worth, this is the first I've heard of it, as both a member
of ORG's Advisory Council and a member of this email list 😕


Ar Iau, 2 Medi 2021 am 16:47 Andy Mabbett <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk>
ysgrifennodd:

> ORG UK are objecting to the UK government's proposed Online Safety
> Bill; there's a petition [1] and they say:
>
> "the appointment of a state speech regulator - appointed and directed
> by government - will create a sprawling bureaucracy of speech police.
> The Home Office and the DCMS will direct what speech must be removed,
> filtered and monitored... the Bill’s provisions to block websites,
> apps, or services which refuse to cooperate with the speech
> regulator’s orders could put household names like Wikipedia, Reddit
> and Tumblr in the crosshairs"
>
> Does WMF have a position on this? Has there been any contact with ORG?
> [I've put the same question to WMUK, separately]
>
> [1] https://action.openrightsgroup.org/stop-state-censorship-online-speech
>
> --
> Andy Mabbett
> @pigsonthewing
> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2021 09:36:08 +0200
From: Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com>
Subject: [Publicpolicy] Re: ORG UK campaign & petition mention
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Hi all,

Have been in touch with the WMF and ORG on this in the past months asking
about this. Current status is that the WMF took the lead and will  prepare
a submission document for the UK government. They are working with WMUK and
keep us from the FKAGEU a.k.a. wikimedia.brussels in the loop, which I am
grateful for.

On a more general note, we can already observe that Brexit in practice
means more work on most policy files. This is because the UK government
seems to work in parallel to the EU legislator on many issues. If the EU
does something on content moderation, so will the UK. If the EU does
something on digital markets, so will the UK. To be fair, France and
Germany do something similar by trying to "pre-transpose" parts of future
EU laws in order to set a trend.

Cheers,
Dimi



На чт, 2.09.2021 г. в 20:22 ч. Owen Blacker <owen@openrightsgroup.org>
написа:

> For what it's worth, this is the first I've heard of it, as both a member
> of ORG's Advisory Council and a member of this email list 😕
>
>
> Ar Iau, 2 Medi 2021 am 16:47 Andy Mabbett <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk>
> ysgrifennodd:
>
>> ORG UK are objecting to the UK government's proposed Online Safety
>> Bill; there's a petition [1] and they say:
>>
>> "the appointment of a state speech regulator - appointed and directed
>> by government - will create a sprawling bureaucracy of speech police.
>> The Home Office and the DCMS will direct what speech must be removed,
>> filtered and monitored... the Bill’s provisions to block websites,
>> apps, or services which refuse to cooperate with the speech
>> regulator’s orders could put household names like Wikipedia, Reddit
>> and Tumblr in the crosshairs"
>>
>> Does WMF have a position on this? Has there been any contact with ORG?
>> [I've put the same question to WMUK, separately]
>>
>> [1]
>> https://action.openrightsgroup.org/stop-state-censorship-online-speech
>>
>> --
>> Andy Mabbett
>> @pigsonthewing
>> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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