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2014-08-02 10:37 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org>rg>:
Hi Jens,
Just out of curiosity for clarification, given your Praesidium signature:
are you engaging this discussion strongly from your personal interest, or
did WMDE create a position on this issue be it formally or not?
Thanks, lodewijk
On Aug 2, 2014 1:34 AM, "Jens Best" <jens.best(a)wikimedia.de> wrote:
> Well,
>
> my first repsonse to Erics text:
>
> a lot of words, a lot of "believing in this & that", some emotional
> storytelling - but nothing on the simple fact that any zero-rating is a
> clear violation of net neutrality.
>
> So, is this supposed to be the opening of a discussion? For me this text
> doesn't sound like that any discussion with an open result is possible or
> even welcomed.
>
> This text is in clear contradiction to the recent statement of EFF. So is
> the Foundation willingly trying to violate one of the basic principles of
> an open web just to be part of the Facebook Zero, Google Zero, Coke Zero -
> Group? Is the foundation really that naive to not see that this way it
> becomes part of the marketing machine of access providers to deteriorate
> user habits?
>
> So, as a net neutrality advocate somebody has to ask him-/herself if
> he/she really wants to participate in a discussion which result is already
> determined. What is EFF saying to this clear violation of net neutrality by
> WMF?
>
> best regards
>
> Jens Best
>
>
> 2014-08-02 0:48 GMT+02:00 Yana Welinder <ywelinder(a)wikimedia.org>rg>:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I wanted to follow up on the discussion on Wikipedia Zero and net
>> neutrality on this list. We just posted a discussion on this topic:
>>
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/08/01/wikipedia-zero-and-net-neutrality-pro…
>>
>> Best,
>> Yana
>>
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