Hi,
There is a distinction in Swedish law around taking the photo for your own use - and transferring the photo to other people. Taking (digital) photos are still okay, and it is explicitly stated in the law that it is okay to transfer the photo in the analog sense (i.e. put the image in a book or on a postcard and sell it for profit is perfectly fine).
But what we were sued for was our work with Offentligkonst.se, where we are using
digital means to transfer these images to other people. We, and our legal councils, thought that the court would interpret the law technology neutral (i.e. if a printing press is okay to use as a tool, then a computer would). We were wrong...
Best,
John
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> 1. Re: Is the Swedish Twist unique? (Ryan Kaldari)
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> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 11:44:03 -0600
> From: Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari@wikimedia.org>
> To: Publicpolicy Group for Wikimedia
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> Subject: Re: [Publicpolicy] Is the Swedish Twist unique?
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> [Warning: This is a lawman's analysis. I'm not a lawyer.]
>
> Wow, this is a pretty incredible decision. It seems the Swedish Supreme
> Court has gutted the country's Freedom of Panorama law (for all works
> including buildings) by simply declaring that the the law's statement
> that "Works
> of art may be reproduced..." ("Konstverk får avbildas...") doesn't apply to
> the internet. They seem to have bent over backwards to reach this
> conclusion, citing the European Parliament and Council Directive 2001/29 /
> EC of 22 May 2001 (which they say "imposes a strong protection of
> copyright, especially in the digital environment") and even the fact that
> other Nordic countries don't have Freedom of Panorama (they do, it's just
> restricted to buildings). Their basic conclusion is that the law must be
> interpreted as conservatively as possible because otherwise it would
> "unreasonably prejudice" the author's financial interests (without
> acknowledging at all the public's interest). They awkwardly explain that
> postcards don't constitute a significant impact on commercial exploitation,
> but when it comes to new technology like the internet, the law must be
> assumed to not apply (despite what a reasonable person would assume from
> the law's text). This is very disappointing indeed.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 8:58 AM, Raul Veede <raul.veede@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > Most likely the Swedes can explain the exact nuances better, but from the
> > little I have gathered, it seems that Swedish Supreme Court today decided
> > that although there is Freedom of Panorama in Sweden, it cannot be extended
> > to publishing the images of public art on the Internet.
> >
> > Now, the exact reasoning, all the consequences and WMSE's further actions
> > notwithstanding, my question is whether this makes Sweden the only country
> > in the world where such a distinction is established? If yes, this is a
> > very dangerous precedent. If not, I would very much want to know the
> > peculiarities in the other cases.
> >
> > In either case, we should be prepared to counter suggestions to adapt that
> > distinction to the other countries in Europe.
> >
> > Some links:
> > * WMSE's press release:
> > http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/pressreleases/hoegsta-domstolen-vaeljer-att-krympa-det-offentliga-rummet-istaellet-foer-att-gaa-paa-wikimedia-sveriges-linje-1360834
> > * The same in Google Translate:
> > https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mynewsdesk.com%2Fse%2Fpressreleases%2Fhoegsta-domstolen-vaeljer-att-krympa-det-offentliga-rummet-istaellet-foer-att-gaa-paa-wikimedia-sveriges-linje-1360834&edit-text=
> > * Supreme Court's decision in Google Translate:
> > https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.hogstadomstolen.se/Domstolar/hogstadomstolen/Avgoranden/2016/2016-04-04%2520%25C3%2596%2520849-15%2520Beslut.pdf&usg=ALkJrhhlSJXySoC2n5KkvshhCcIsShp6iQ
> > * Swedish Copyright Act in English (on Unesco's homepage):
> > http://portal.unesco.org/culture/admin/file_download.php/se_copyright_2005_en.pdf?URL_ID=30264&filename=11418280643se_copyright_2005_en.pdf&filetype=application%2Fpdf&filesize=174806&name=se_copyright_2005_en.pdf&location=user-S/
> >
> > Some coverage in Swedish:
> > http://feber.se/webb/art/346833/offentligkonstse_bryter_mot_up/
> > http://www.svt.se/kultur/konst/brottsligt-sprida-bilder-av-offentligt-konst-pa-natet
> > http://www.fotosidan.se/cldoc/lag-och-ratt/hd-dom-olagligt-att-publicera-bilder.htm
> > http://www.friatider.se/wikipedia-f-r-inte-visa-bilder-p-konstverk
> > http://www.dn.se/kultur-noje/konst-form/hd-brottsligt-att-sprida-bilder-av-offentlig-konst-pa-natet/
> >
> > http://www.kamerabild.se/nyheter/foto/hd-beslut-olagligt-att-avbilda-konst-f-r-spridning-p-n-tet
> >
> > One particular piece of news in translation, demonstrating the
> > journalist's depth of comprehension, starting with the headline "Copyright
> > of outdoor art also applies online":
> >
> > https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsverigesradio.se%2Fsida%2Fartikel.aspx%3Fprogramid%3D478%26artikel%3D6403634&edit-text=
> >
> > Enjoy.
> >
> > Raul
> >
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> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 11:44:29 -0600
> From: Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari@wikimedia.org>
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> Subject: Re: [Publicpolicy] Is the Swedish Twist unique?
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> Oops, I meant "layman", not "lawman" :)
>
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
> > [Warning: This is a lawman's analysis. I'm not a lawyer.]
> >
> > Wow, this is a pretty incredible decision. It seems the Swedish Supreme
> > Court has gutted the country's Freedom of Panorama law (for all works
> > including buildings) by simply declaring that the the law's statement that "Works
> > of art may be reproduced..." ("Konstverk får avbildas...") doesn't apply
> > to the internet. They seem to have bent over backwards to reach this
> > conclusion, citing the European Parliament and Council Directive 2001/29 /
> > EC of 22 May 2001 (which they say "imposes a strong protection of
> > copyright, especially in the digital environment") and even the fact that
> > other Nordic countries don't have Freedom of Panorama (they do, it's just
> > restricted to buildings). Their basic conclusion is that the law must be
> > interpreted as conservatively as possible because otherwise it would
> > "unreasonably prejudice" the author's financial interests (without
> > acknowledging at all the public's interest). They awkwardly explain that
> > postcards don't constitute a significant impact on commercial exploitation,
> > but when it comes to new technology like the internet, the law must be
> > assumed to not apply (despite what a reasonable person would assume from
> > the law's text). This is very disappointing indeed.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 8:58 AM, Raul Veede <raul.veede@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi.
> >>
> >> Most likely the Swedes can explain the exact nuances better, but from the
> >> little I have gathered, it seems that Swedish Supreme Court today decided
> >> that although there is Freedom of Panorama in Sweden, it cannot be extended
> >> to publishing the images of public art on the Internet.
> >>
> >> Now, the exact reasoning, all the consequences and WMSE's further actions
> >> notwithstanding, my question is whether this makes Sweden the only country
> >> in the world where such a distinction is established? If yes, this is a
> >> very dangerous precedent. If not, I would very much want to know the
> >> peculiarities in the other cases.
> >>
> >> In either case, we should be prepared to counter suggestions to adapt
> >> that distinction to the other countries in Europe.
> >>
> >> Some links:
> >> * WMSE's press release:
> >> http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/pressreleases/hoegsta-domstolen-vaeljer-att-krympa-det-offentliga-rummet-istaellet-foer-att-gaa-paa-wikimedia-sveriges-linje-1360834
> >> * The same in Google Translate:
> >> https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mynewsdesk.com%2Fse%2Fpressreleases%2Fhoegsta-domstolen-vaeljer-att-krympa-det-offentliga-rummet-istaellet-foer-att-gaa-paa-wikimedia-sveriges-linje-1360834&edit-text=
> >> * Supreme Court's decision in Google Translate:
> >> https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.hogstadomstolen.se/Domstolar/hogstadomstolen/Avgoranden/2016/2016-04-04%2520%25C3%2596%2520849-15%2520Beslut.pdf&usg=ALkJrhhlSJXySoC2n5KkvshhCcIsShp6iQ
> >> * Swedish Copyright Act in English (on Unesco's homepage):
> >> http://portal.unesco.org/culture/admin/file_download.php/se_copyright_2005_en.pdf?URL_ID=30264&filename=11418280643se_copyright_2005_en.pdf&filetype=application%2Fpdf&filesize=174806&name=se_copyright_2005_en.pdf&location=user-S/
> >>
> >> Some coverage in Swedish:
> >> http://feber.se/webb/art/346833/offentligkonstse_bryter_mot_up/
> >> http://www.svt.se/kultur/konst/brottsligt-sprida-bilder-av-offentligt-konst-pa-natet
> >> http://www.fotosidan.se/cldoc/lag-och-ratt/hd-dom-olagligt-att-publicera-bilder.htm
> >> http://www.friatider.se/wikipedia-f-r-inte-visa-bilder-p-konstverk
> >> http://www.dn.se/kultur-noje/konst-form/hd-brottsligt-att-sprida-bilder-av-offentlig-konst-pa-natet/
> >>
> >> http://www.kamerabild.se/nyheter/foto/hd-beslut-olagligt-att-avbilda-konst-f-r-spridning-p-n-tet
> >>
> >> One particular piece of news in translation, demonstrating the
> >> journalist's depth of comprehension, starting with the headline "Copyright
> >> of outdoor art also applies online":
> >>
> >> https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsverigesradio.se%2Fsida%2Fartikel.aspx%3Fprogramid%3D478%26artikel%3D6403634&edit-text=
> >>
> >> Enjoy.
> >>
> >> Raul
> >>
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