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> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 12:02:27 +0000
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> 1. Re: Hungarian Constitutional Court holds content providers
> responsible for unmoderated comments (Tisza Gergõ)
> 2. Commissioner on copyright reform and FoP
> (Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov)
> 3. Re: Commissioner on copyright reform and FoP (Stevie Benton)
> 4. Re: Commissioner on copyright reform and FoP
> (Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 22:32:57 -0700
> From: Tisza Gergõ <gtisza@gmail.com>
> To: Advocacy Advisory Group for Wikimedia
> <advocacy_advisors@lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Advocacy Advisors] Hungarian Constitutional Court holds
> content providers responsible for unmoderated comments
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> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 1:45 AM, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <
> dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Tisza, for the update! So I guess this cements it then? Any chance
> > anybody can change the rule in Hungary from now on?
> >
>
> IANAL, but as I understand it the lower-level courts based their decision
> on certain laws, and the Constitutional Court was asked to say whether that
> is unconstitutional due to freedom of speech, and they said it was not;
> they did not say the responsibility of content providers follows directly
> from the constitution. So if the laws in question (2001/CVIII e-commerce
> act + civil code) are changed, that could affect the situation. (And of
> course the constitution could be changed - the current ruling party has
> supermajority and does that quite frequently.)
>
> Given that the current government has so far always changed laws towards
> less freedom of speech, not more, I wouldn't hold my breath, though.
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> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 12:48:18 +0200
> From: Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com>
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> Subject: [Advocacy Advisors] Commissioner on copyright reform and FoP
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> Hi all,
>
> Neelie Kores, outgoing Commissioner for the Digital Agenda held a speech at
> a conference in Amsterdam yesterday where she spoke about the need of the
> planned copyright reform. [1] Among other things, she said:
>
> *When you can't sing happy birthday, or post a picture of the Atomium, how
> is that fair or reasonable, how is that something you can explain to
> ordinary citizens?*
>
> Yes, it is an outgoing Commissioner and DG CONNECT is the not the lead DG
> for copyright, but this is the first time the European Commission said
> anything about Freedom of Panorama. I know for a fact that it was the
> members of the Free Knowledge Advocacy Group EU and their constant talk to
> anyone about this issue how the Atomium example showed up on the radars of
> both DG CONNECT and DG MARKT. In this line of thought I just wanted to say:
> Thank you and great job, everyone!
>
> Let's make sure we keep FoP on the table. We actually have the great
> examples and stories to tell.
>
> Cheers,
> Dimi
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> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 11:56:21 +0100
> From: Stevie Benton <stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.uk>
> To: Advocacy Advisory Group for Wikimedia
> <advocacy_advisors@lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Advocacy Advisors] Commissioner on copyright reform and
> FoP
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> This is excellent! Progress may take time, but it's beginning to feel like
> we are getting somewhere.
>
> I touch on the FoP issue in the upcoming Wikimedia UK annual review booklet
> - https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/File:Wikimedia_AR_2014_v4.pdf - in the
> section about advocacy. I use Romaine's excellent image of the blacked out
> European Parliament.
>
> Let's keep pushing!
>
> Stevie
>
>
> On 3 July 2014 11:48, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <
> dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Neelie Kores, outgoing Commissioner for the Digital Agenda held a speech
> > at a conference in Amsterdam yesterday where she spoke about the need of
> > the planned copyright reform. [1] Among other things, she said:
> >
> > *When you can't sing happy birthday, or post a picture of the Atomium, how
> > is that fair or reasonable, how is that something you can explain to
> > ordinary citizens?*
> >
> > Yes, it is an outgoing Commissioner and DG CONNECT is the not the lead DG
> > for copyright, but this is the first time the European Commission said
> > anything about Freedom of Panorama. I know for a fact that it was the
> > members of the Free Knowledge Advocacy Group EU and their constant talk to
> > anyone about this issue how the Atomium example showed up on the radars of
> > both DG CONNECT and DG MARKT. In this line of thought I just wanted to say:
> > Thank you and great job, everyone!
> >
> > Let's make sure we keep FoP on the table. We actually have the great
> > examples and stories to tell.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Dimi
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> --
>
> Stevie Benton
> Head of External Relations
> Wikimedia UK
> +44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173
> @StevieBenton
>
> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England
> and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513.
> Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street,
> London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a
> global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the
> Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
>
> *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal
> control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 13:28:37 +0200
> From: Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com>
> To: Advocacy Advisory Group for Wikimedia
> <advocacy_advisors@lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Advocacy Advisors] Commissioner on copyright reform and
> FoP
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> This is absolutely brilliant, Stevie! Romaine's image and the text you
> added next to it. Plus the story we have to tell with the EP Secretariat
> giving us permission to use it on Wikipedia only to figure out later that
> they don't the rights and thus can't allow us to use an image of their own
> building.
>
> Could WMUK or another chapter print this image with the text on a banner?
> 180x76cm would be enought. We could use it at events around Brussels to
> raise awareness in a very powerful way. I could even imagine an info-booth
> inside the Parliament.
>
>
> 2014-07-03 12:56 GMT+02:00 Stevie Benton <stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.uk>:
>
> > This is excellent! Progress may take time, but it's beginning to feel like
> > we are getting somewhere.
> >
> > I touch on the FoP issue in the upcoming Wikimedia UK annual review
> > booklet - https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/File:Wikimedia_AR_2014_v4.pdf -
> > in the section about advocacy. I use Romaine's excellent image of the
> > blacked out European Parliament.
> >
> > Let's keep pushing!
> >
> > Stevie
> >
> >
> > On 3 July 2014 11:48, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <
> > dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Neelie Kores, outgoing Commissioner for the Digital Agenda held a speech
> >> at a conference in Amsterdam yesterday where she spoke about the need of
> >> the planned copyright reform. [1] Among other things, she said:
> >>
> >> *When you can't sing happy birthday, or post a picture of the Atomium,
> >> how is that fair or reasonable, how is that something you can explain to
> >> ordinary citizens?*
> >>
> >> Yes, it is an outgoing Commissioner and DG CONNECT is the not the lead DG
> >> for copyright, but this is the first time the European Commission said
> >> anything about Freedom of Panorama. I know for a fact that it was the
> >> members of the Free Knowledge Advocacy Group EU and their constant talk to
> >> anyone about this issue how the Atomium example showed up on the radars of
> >> both DG CONNECT and DG MARKT. In this line of thought I just wanted to say:
> >> Thank you and great job, everyone!
> >>
> >> Let's make sure we keep FoP on the table. We actually have the great
> >> examples and stories to tell.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Dimi
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Stevie Benton
> > Head of External Relations
> > Wikimedia UK+44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173
> > @StevieBenton
> >
> > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
> >
> > *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*
> >
> >
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