Pete2. To the extent you are generally advocating for open projects to contribute to Wikipedia, I would urge you to include in your advocacy the importance of generally improving articles covering the field (like "Open Access", "OER", "Open content" etc.) -- in addition to articles about their specific projects.1. Bjoern, could you also make a brief announcement that you are working on this on the WikiProject Open talk page? http://enwp.org/WT:OPEN This is a good practice in general, and it would be particularly helpful right now -- we have a new cohort of students starting the "Writing Wikipedia Articles" (WIKISOO) course this week, and they will benefit from seeing this kind of WikiProject activity right from the start.Bjoern and all --What a great project & discussion! I have looked at the article, and it appears things are well underway. I will do what I can to support these efforts on Wikipedia, so only a couple quick comments for now/in email:
3. I may have mentioned this to you before -- but we had students last summer who wrote an article on their own project. For anyone taking on a similar project, I think it's worthwhile to review the discussion from its talk page, especially the section about conflicts of interest. This provides some good practical insight into how to approach that issue: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:PhET_Interactive_Simulations
Looking forward to seeing where this goes! I will be putting some more specific suggestions on Wikipedia.--On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 5:15 AM, Bjoern Hassler <bjohas@gmail.com> wrote:Great - many thanks - so let's discuss this on the talk page?Thanks for all your input!BjoernOn 21 February 2014 13:51, Lane Rasberry <lane@bluerasberry.com> wrote:
I am user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia. Thanks for doing this. Yes, citing newspapers is good.If you need help doing this, create a Wikipedia account, share the name here, and then we can meet on-wiki.Hello,Post notes on Wikipedia in a userpage sandbox so that we can collaboratively look at this together and get it live so that it will be easier to reach.
yours,On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Bjoern Hassler <bjohas@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Stuart, hi all,the copyright violation isn't really one - I wrote both texts. Now, technically you are right of course, but I'll get a CC logo put up on our project page, which would resolve the issue. I'll ask the departmental web person to do this now! We'll want to rewrite it a bit anyway.Sibi, Fred: Many thanks for comments and willingness to help out!! Great to have your responses!BjoernOn 21 February 2014 13:08, Stuart Lawson <stuart.a.lawson@gmail.com> wrote:Hi Bjeorn,Research articles are great sources, less so if they are written by those involved, but still valid sources. References from other organisations would be very good.
Unfortunately I've realised that a lot of the text of the article is copied from here: https://www.educ.cam.ac.uk/centres/cce/initiatives/projects/oer4schools/ which is a copyright violation. As far as I can see, that page is copyrighted (no Creative Commons license), so the copied text needs to be removed and re-written/paraphrased instead.Thanks,StuartOn 21 February 2014 11:51, Bjoern Hassler <bjohas@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Stuart,many thanks.What secondary sources would be appropriate? E.g. linking to research articles (published in journals, peer-reviewed)? Or (given that those are written by people involved), do they count as primary sources? THere are some referneces from other organisations to us, so that would work.What sort of banner should we put at the top of the article to flag that it's not complete?BjoernOn 21 February 2014 12:14, Stuart Lawson <stuart.a.lawson@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Bjoern,I think it's a great idea to create Wikipedia articles for these projects. The article for OER4Schools will need quite a lot of work to make it appropriate for Wikipedia; every statement must be referenced, and it can't rely only on primary sources (e.g. the OER4Schools website).If you know of other sources that discuss the project, please add them or references or list them on the article's talk page for other people to look at.If you like, you could propose similar articles on the WikiProject Open talk page.Thanks,StuartOn 21 February 2014 10:59, Bjoern Hassler <bjohas@gmail.com> wrote:
_______________________________________________Dear all,I am currently at the UNESCO Mobile Learning Week, and I thought I'd raise something for discussion.Should there be wikipedia entries on projects that are to do with "open"? I.e. an entry describing the project?Should there be wikipedia entries on educational projects?E.g. the significant UNESCO TISSA project, or the CREATE project http://www.create-rpc.org/ are not on wikipedia. Larger scale projects, such as EfA / GMR:
are represented.Background: People at the UNESCO Mobile Learning Week here are saying that it's difficult to find out about other projects, and I would advocate that we should use wikipedia to share basic information, rather than setting up a separate platform.For example I've just created this page:It's fairly unbiased, but at the same time, I am a key person within the project. So while I could defend the neutrality of the article, it may still be frowned upon.What do people think?All the best,Bjoern
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