Rudy {{U|RP87}}Hi,I'm glad to see this initiative and the momentum it is getting.I know automation is needed and will provide scale. However, I have a feeling we are missing an ingredient, something (not else) but more.Freeing academically produced literature is not just about pushing formerly published work toward open archives.A lot of work, resources and money is spent to sent publicly funded work in the private lucrative repositories of a very limited number of publishers. In France, Elsevier receive from Couperin-Abes (the organism 'negotiating' and buying access to journals for most of french research institutions) about as much money as the world wide Wikimedian budget. As a whole, France could pay a double wikimedia if giving-up all what is know from these subscriptions. Furthermore from the research I maid and lived, academia in its vast majority simply do not care. It is part of the economics of academia (some notoriety-academical-kapitalism). One aiming at a carrier in research can hardly escape this system. And from first hand experience I'd rather discourage writing about it without a secured academical position. So civil society must push a bit to get back what she made possible. In my opinion Wikimedia is just the right intermed body.What is done to make contact with researchers showing them, repeatedly, who is financially supporting their work and that public research can directly be produced under free (libre) licenses ? Going toward opening knowledge communities more than opening past research would benefit more the interaction between researchers and the rest of society.As discussed with Dario and previously on some wikimedian discussion on this matter (can't find the URL), I was proposing to enable emailing corresponding authors via the mailing tool of a wikimedian account (in use for notifications). And I mean a person-account (not just bots).Pre- established mails would be sent with links such as the ' Email this user ', but addressed to corresponding authors found in the meta-data or head of the article.For instance:~To {{U|the user mailing the request}} Please, consider personalizing this e-mail template ~"Dear 'Auto- Author-Name',Searching the references on 'Auto- Matter-Topic', indicated on the article 'Auto- Wikimedian-article', I found your paper entitled 'Auto- Article-Title'. I was impeded in this work by paywalls.Would you please publish this work in an open archive [Auto- major archives links]. Their are by the way alternative way to publish scientific work, direct open access, without author publishing charges : 'Link toward wikiversities scientific journals'.Nice formulations about knowledge creation and dissemination etc.Sincerely yours,{{U|Auto- the user}} and the wikimedian community."The contact links would be placed in the reference part or in a template at the head of the article :Contact corresponding authors, in order to free this knowledge and related references.Click and send, from your wikimedian account, requests to theses authors to free their work 'Auto-e-mail-LINK'.* article 1* article 2...If you are working on this topic, please join an open-peer-reviewing group [[open-peer-reviewing group portal]]'If you are from any part of civil society interested in the topic and searching for advanced knowledge on the topic, please join a [[vulgarization group]] for not-understood content, or a [[bibliographic intelligence and problematization group]] for 'non-researched yet' material."I'll watch for the visio-chat opportunity (some mumble equivalent at least if we are many). But the current period is quite loaded, with social, political and work context. So I may just contribute on any meta / wiki page you point toward. I push this mail toward some friends, former colleagues and contacts, as I'm sure some will see opportunities.Best Regards
@+On 29 August 2017 at 19:57, Joseph McArthur <joe@sparcopen.org> wrote:______________________________Thanks for the quick reply, tried the same below.On Tue, 29 Aug 2017 at 17:31 Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki@gmail.com> wrote:Joseph McArthur, 29/08/2017 18:52:
> Federico, this sounds amazing!
Thanks.
>
> I want to offer the help of the Open Access Button request system here: [...]
>
> I'd love to work with you to figure out how we can help here, as it
> would be a shame for us to duplicate this!
Sure. In fact I reused some of your learnings, so you already
contributed to my campaign.
https://github.com/OAButton/discussion/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93 &q=commenter%3Anemobis%20 Oh grand, I'll take a peak at those issues in the coming days and see if there is anything else useful I could add.
From https://github.com/OAButton/discussion/issues/587 I got the
impression you wouldn't be able to sustain my requests for 224k DOIs at
once, so I figured I'd try to add some additional capacity with WMIT
resources at least for this initial test of mine. In the short term
(September), if some of you have spare cycles, I could use your help in
drafting the next emails and replying to support requests.From issues it sounded like you were doing a few thousand emails to authors, which we could manage with a bit of co-ordination (technically, you could do it via the API without consulting but it would be quite innefficient for us) e.g let us know what you want requested in a spreadsheet, and then we'll get it up the same day and have messages sent. If you simply wanted to run 224k DOI's to see if they were available, that's a pretty light lift, so I wouldn't worry about that (just hit the API when you fancy).We might have some spare time, shall we try and have a 30 minute chat by phone (or similar) and try to hammer something out? If that makes sense see if there a time that works for you here: doodle.com/joemcarthur.
In the long term, if we want something stable as suggested by Dario (or
indeed John
<https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/accelerating-open-access- >),adoption-john-dove
I agree we should go through some permanent help desk like the OAbutton,
ideally with some resources/support from SPARC, JISC, OpenAIRE or
whoever is interested in directly supporting green OA beyond specific
borders.All the more reason to chat :)
Nemo
P.s: I've removed from Cc some addresses which I believe are already in
the list, to avoid making these messages always go into moderation.Thanks!--Joseph McArthurAssistant Director: Right to Research CoalitionCo-Lead/Founder: Open Access ButtonTwitter: @Mcarthur_JoeSkype: joseph_mcarthur_________________
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