With respect to Jorge's questions:1) All devices are 128 Gb now
2) They ship with MDWiki and en Wikipedia at least.3) Everyone who has received a device has also agreed to fill in a questionnaire at some point. Havn't gotten around to that bit yet.4) I also collect what people want it for when they reach out. Answers vary from home schooling, to living on a boat, to time capsule, to hurricaine backup, to medical clinics in the developing world, to local libraries.5) Most are going to the US but also some to Europe, Canada, and Australia. The rare device to the DRC, East Timor, and India.
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From: Jorge Vargas <jvargas@wikimedia.org>
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Hi James! So lovely to hear from you.
Out of curiosity, can you share more about what latest build of the
internet in a box at estoy shipping? Where are they going and how did they
reached out? What content are you shipping them with and what memory
capacity do you have?
Super interesting stuff!! Are you planning to get any feedback from these
users once they start testing and suing the devices? That would also be
really cool learning.
Hug,
Jorge
On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 11:51 PM James Heilman <jmh649@gmail.com> wrote:
> We have seen a significant increase in interest in these devices this
> month, having shipped 24 devices so far.
>
> As such we are increasing what we charge to distribute them to 50 USD each
> so we are not losing money on each device. Also hopefully this will make it
> easier for others to get into distribution.
>
>
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> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
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From: Adam Holt <holt@unleashkids.org>
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Long time no see Jorge (-:
Others too are seeing a dramatic surge of interest in Internet-in-a-Box
this year, and especially in the past month. A lot of the recent interest
is among people wanting a "complete" English Wikipedia for
offline/survivalist purposes, as you can see from the 900,000+ views here:
https://www.tiktok.com/tag/internetinabox
Another big trend is that microSD cards and various other kinds of SSD/HDD
drives have become *insanely cheap* (so even 1 TB Internet-in-a-Box's are
becoming much more common, which can hold more than 10 copies of English
Wikipedia, we're not in Kansas anymore!) Based on clear community patterns
(full copies of Wikipedia is almost always what every community wants)
we're encouraging people to include the complete Wikipedia in several
languages now (Spanish and French are always popular, among others).
Hopefully Wikipedia's historical maps will be included in full detail
(right now ZIM files lose this high-resolution) in future too —
alongside OpenStreetMap,
and satellite photos that Internet-in-a-Box also includes, much like Google
Maps but with privacy built in !!
A common endeavor among all these grassroots communities is to build up
very rich Internet-in-a-Box "Learning Bouquets" for home schoolers,
missionaries, NGO's and others (some very new demographics we did not see
in prior years, in countries rich and poor!) Certainly, English remains
very dominant for now. But in short: the surge is not just among "prepper"
survivalists FYI, as the above TikTok vids might suggest.
Internet-in-a-Box software being completely free and increasingly very easy
to install (after years of refinement, gets better every year!) is
definitely part of this spike, that predated the above TikTok videos ✅
If you're interested in keeping up with these latest twists + turns in
various countries — i.e. keeping an eye on Internet-in-a-Box grassroots
community action in all countries (peacetime, wartime, rich, poor) as it
grows — these will be posted here increasingly in coming months:
https://twitter.com/internet_in_box
Definitely we're entering a New Chapter. Many hard-working people have
come together to get us this far, and to see where this leads. Building
upon Emmanuel Engelhart's & many other *non-traditional* Wikipedia
volunteers' hard work bringing Wikipedia to completely new kinds of
communities~ 🪫🔋
Keep in Touch!
Adam
*PS if you want to install Internet-in-a-Box yourself, on almost any old
laptop (or Raspberry Pi if you prefer!) do that here:*
https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-8.0-Release-Notes
On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 10:36 AM Jorge Vargas <jvargas@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Hi James! So lovely to hear from you.
>
> Out of curiosity, can you share more about what latest build of the
> internet in a box at estoy shipping? Where are they going and how did they
> reached out? What content are you shipping them with and what memory
> capacity do you have?
>
> Super interesting stuff!! Are you planning to get any feedback from these
> users once they start testing and suing the devices? That would also be
> really cool learning.
>
> Hug,
> Jorge
>
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 11:51 PM James Heilman <jmh649@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We have seen a significant increase in interest in these devices this
>> month, having shipped 24 devices so far.
>>
>> As such we are increasing what we charge to distribute them to 50 USD
>> each so we are not losing money on each device. Also hopefully this will
>> make it easier for others to get into distribution.
>>
>>
>> --
>> James Heilman
>> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
>> _______________________________________________
>> Offline-l mailing list -- offline-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>> To unsubscribe send an email to offline-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
>>
> --
> *Jorge Vargas* (he/him)
> Director of Partnerships
> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
> M: (+1) 415.404.9536
> I work from Miami, USA. My time zone is UTC/GMT -4/-5.
> _______________________________________________
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Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2022 13:14:57 -0400
From: Samuel Klein <meta.sj@gmail.com>
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+1 to the increase, I appreciate your thinking about that aspect of
robustness. Thanks for sharing!
The world of local 1TB iiab users is also very interesting for the
implications for regional caching of different versions of essential
information w/ sporadic high-bandwidth exchanges (sneakernet / Paquete
Semanal style). That also remains the most reliable way to get updates
inside censorship regimes.
Looking forward to a future w sharably-named bouquets and bouquet-level
diffs and updates.
🌍🌏🌎🌑
On Fri., Aug. 5, 2022, 11:58 a.m. Adam Holt, <holt@unleashkids.org> wrote:
> Long time no see Jorge (-:
>
> Others too are seeing a dramatic surge of interest in Internet-in-a-Box
> this year, and especially in the past month. A lot of the recent interest
> is among people wanting a "complete" English Wikipedia for
> offline/survivalist purposes, as you can see from the 900,000+ views here:
> https://www.tiktok.com/tag/internetinabox
>
> Another big trend is that microSD cards and various other kinds of SSD/HDD
> drives have become *insanely cheap* (so even 1 TB Internet-in-a-Box's are
> becoming much more common, which can hold more than 10 copies of English
> Wikipedia, we're not in Kansas anymore!) Based on clear community patterns
> (full copies of Wikipedia is almost always what every community wants)
> we're encouraging people to include the complete Wikipedia in several
> languages now (Spanish and French are always popular, among others).
>
> Hopefully Wikipedia's historical maps will be included in full detail
> (right now ZIM files lose this high-resolution) in future too — alongside OpenStreetMap,
> and satellite photos that Internet-in-a-Box also includes, much like Google
> Maps but with privacy built in !!
>
> A common endeavor among all these grassroots communities is to build up
> very rich Internet-in-a-Box "Learning Bouquets" for home schoolers,
> missionaries, NGO's and others (some very new demographics we did not see
> in prior years, in countries rich and poor!) Certainly, English remains
> very dominant for now. But in short: the surge is not just among "prepper"
> survivalists FYI, as the above TikTok vids might suggest.
> Internet-in-a-Box software being completely free and increasingly very easy
> to install (after years of refinement, gets better every year!) is
> definitely part of this spike, that predated the above TikTok videos ✅
>
> If you're interested in keeping up with these latest twists + turns in
> various countries — i.e. keeping an eye on Internet-in-a-Box grassroots
> community action in all countries (peacetime, wartime, rich, poor) as it
> grows — these will be posted here increasingly in coming months:
> https://twitter.com/internet_in_box
>
> Definitely we're entering a New Chapter. Many hard-working people have
> come together to get us this far, and to see where this leads. Building
> upon Emmanuel Engelhart's & many other *non-traditional* Wikipedia
> volunteers' hard work bringing Wikipedia to completely new kinds of
> communities~ 🪫🔋
>
> Keep in Touch!
> Adam
>
>
> *PS if you want to install Internet-in-a-Box yourself, on almost any old
> laptop (or Raspberry Pi if you prefer!) do that here:*
>
> https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-8.0-Release-Notes
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 10:36 AM Jorge Vargas <jvargas@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi James! So lovely to hear from you.
>>
>> Out of curiosity, can you share more about what latest build of the
>> internet in a box at estoy shipping? Where are they going and how did they
>> reached out? What content are you shipping them with and what memory
>> capacity do you have?
>>
>> Super interesting stuff!! Are you planning to get any feedback from these
>> users once they start testing and suing the devices? That would also be
>> really cool learning.
>>
>> Hug,
>> Jorge
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 11:51 PM James Heilman <jmh649@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We have seen a significant increase in interest in these devices this
>>> month, having shipped 24 devices so far.
>>>
>>> As such we are increasing what we charge to distribute them to 50 USD
>>> each so we are not losing money on each device. Also hopefully this will
>>> make it easier for others to get into distribution.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> James Heilman
>>> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Offline-l mailing list -- offline-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>>> To unsubscribe send an email to offline-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
>>>
>> --
>> *Jorge Vargas* (he/him)
>> Director of Partnerships
>> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
>> M: (+1) 415.404.9536
>> I work from Miami, USA. My time zone is UTC/GMT -4/-5.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Offline-l mailing list -- offline-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>> To unsubscribe send an email to offline-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
>>
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