Hello

For group contacts + reports :  It would be good to have an annual nomination thread, and short wiki vote, a few months before our annual report? (August each year)

Ok. So we could put that back on the table around May ?

That way we can use the same energy to summarize what's been happening; those involved in active projects should feel welcome to be liaisons; and we keep the meta pages up to date.

  
On board voting:

For information, the signpost (well, Bluerasberry) has published this that is worth reading:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-02-28/In_focus

+ Arranging private votes has been a perennial weakness for the movement.  Would others be interested in public discussion of pros/cons of different candidates?

For information : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats

Ok, vote is one thing. Nomination is another.

So to start with, I am not sure what is currently the process for nominating candidates...
Apparently, voting takes care on the ChapterWiki, which is a private wiki (I suppose that Sam has access to it... do you Sam ?)
I presume that nomination process also takes place on the ChapterWiki ? Can you tell us if that is the case Sam ?

+ I respect the concerns around voting multiple times: we want people to be comfortable joining many groups while only voting once.  Is there any proposal yet re: how to do this? 

+ Say that, per Nemo, only incorporated groups vote in the final selection.  Perhaps we could share formal recommendations with that group, before their vote (and sort those out on Meta).

As said previously, ALL groups can vote. It is not restricted to incorporated groups.
But indeed, we can also simply choose to NOT vote. But if so, this is something we should explicitely decide.

I vaguely feel that what we should do is
1) participate in the nomination process (IF we have a name to propose and IF it is not in the current list - if list there is... so first thing would be to figure out where the nomination list would actually be...)
2) not participate in the vote (because it is unclear who our membership is and it is likely many of us are in other groups)

What about starting by polling our "members" on a wiki page about how they feel about the offline group actually trying to vote for someone ?

Florence

SJ 

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 9:39 AM Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for raising the point.

Florence Devouard, 27/02/19 14:17:
> Yet... an WMF affiliate has some obligations... so how should we deal
> with that in the least time-consuming, least-bureaucratic,
> least-expensive way, yet playing our role in representing, recruting and
> promoting offline in the mouvement ?

 From my point of view as a supporter of offline projects, the ideal
solution is that all affiliates agree that only incorporated entities
will have a formal vote (whatever its weight) in the final phase of the
selection of 2 board seats, to avoid creating new unwanted work about
internal governance.

Alternatively, a simple method might be to decide that all user groups
will have a discussion/vote on a certain wiki page where all their
members can join (Meta-Wiki may be enough if it can be public), so that
it's easy to identify unwanted patterns. (And establish a quorum or
whatever other criteria is decided.)

Federico

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