Hello everyone,
We have published a new update about the work being done by the New Readers
team.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_Readers/Updates#February_10.2C_2016
Let us know if there are any questions here or on-wiki.
Best,
Jorge
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On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 7:51 AM Anne Gomez <agomez(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Thanks Nick. We'll keep your feedback about the star in mind as we go
> forward. The thing that we're really noticing is that the star is pretty
> confusing to people, especially when paired with another icon with somewhat
> similar intuitive meaning. If you look at the prototypes, you can see how
> this is confusing, particularly for autowiki (now saved pages)
> <https://autowiki.surge.sh/en/wiki/cat>.
>
This is also consistent with what the former mobile team discovered when
we released the watchstar to mobile [1,2] . To our readers it clearly
means favorite.. just as stars do on other websites.
[1]
https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Wikipedia_Mobile_The_T…
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keJ-_so6U-c
9m10 - Top 10 articles watched on Wikipedia
11m24 - watch star generating more sign ups than editing
(Although later in the year this trailed off -
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Mobile_editor_engagementhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Mobile_editor_engagement/Calls_to_…
)
)
> We'll see what we get from the second round of testing, but if we do go
> down the "saved pages" path, this is something we'll likely want to address.
>
> Anne
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Toby Negrin <tnegrin(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks Abbey - super interesting.
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 13:06 Anne Gomez <agomez(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> Yay! Thanks so much, Abbey. This has been a great learning experience -
> both in terms of product takeaways and also in terms of process for these
> regions.
>
> Looking forward to continuing to learn and iterate as we go forward.
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Abbey Ripstra <aripstra(a)wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Everybody!
>
> Here
> <https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/presentation/d/15S6T_nZFatNp7tF3Hq9…> is
> the report for this study, where we tested three (online to offline) ideas
> with a set of users we could reach from here in SF.
>
> Please check it out, and respond here with any questions, thoughts,
> interesting info that could inform our thinking further, etc. A few things
> to note:
>
>
> - The feedback in this report has already been incorporated into the
> prototypes, where needed for our next round of research. (Thanks reading
> web team!)
> - We will continue the testing in India because it is MUCH easier to
> reach our target users there.
> - We will build on the set of learnings in this report with the
> outcomes of the research in India.
> - The recruit for research in India is starting now, and testing will
> begin within a week or so.
> - We will upload this to commons and can post it in the next update
>
> More to follow!
>
> --
> *Abbey Ripstra*
> Lead Design Researcher \\ Wikimedia Foundation
> M +1 773 412 7463
>
> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in
> the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
>
>
>
>
> --
> *Anne Gomez* // Reading Product Manager, New Readers
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_Readers>
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/
>
>
> *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
> *
> *sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment. Donate
> <http://donate.wikimedia.org>. *
>
>
> --
> -Toby
>
>
>
>
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> https://wikimediafoundation.org/
>
>
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Thanks for sharing this research!
On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 7:51 AM Anne Gomez <agomez(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Thanks Nick. We'll keep your feedback about the star in mind as we go
> forward. The thing that we're really noticing is that the star is pretty
> confusing to people, especially when paired with another icon with somewhat
> similar intuitive meaning. If you look at the prototypes, you can see how
> this is confusing, particularly for autowiki (now saved pages)
> <https://autowiki.surge.sh/en/wiki/cat>.
>
> We'll see what we get from the second round of testing, but if we do go
> down the "saved pages" path, this is something we'll likely want to address.
>
> Anne
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Toby Negrin <tnegrin(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks Abbey - super interesting.
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 13:06 Anne Gomez <agomez(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> Yay! Thanks so much, Abbey. This has been a great learning experience -
> both in terms of product takeaways and also in terms of process for these
> regions.
>
> Looking forward to continuing to learn and iterate as we go forward.
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Abbey Ripstra <aripstra(a)wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Everybody!
>
> Here
> <https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/presentation/d/15S6T_nZFatNp7tF3Hq9…> is
> the report for this study, where we tested three (online to offline) ideas
> with a set of users we could reach from here in SF.
>
> Please check it out, and respond here with any questions, thoughts,
> interesting info that could inform our thinking further, etc. A few things
> to note:
>
>
> - The feedback in this report has already been incorporated into the
> prototypes, where needed for our next round of research. (Thanks reading
> web team!)
> - We will continue the testing in India because it is MUCH easier to
> reach our target users there.
> - We will build on the set of learnings in this report with the
> outcomes of the research in India.
> - The recruit for research in India is starting now, and testing will
> begin within a week or so.
> - We will upload this to commons and can post it in the next update
>
> More to follow!
>
> --
> *Abbey Ripstra*
> Lead Design Researcher \\ Wikimedia Foundation
> M +1 773 412 7463
>
> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in
> the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
>
>
>
>
> --
> *Anne Gomez* // Reading Product Manager, New Readers
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_Readers>
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/
>
>
> *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
> *
> *sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment. Donate
> <http://donate.wikimedia.org>. *
>
>
> --
> -Toby
>
>
>
>
> --
> *Anne Gomez* // Reading Product Manager, New Readers
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_Readers>
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/
>
>
> *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
> sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment. Donate
> <http://donate.wikimedia.org>. *
>
>
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>
Good stuff, overall. :-)
Re: slide 30 - "Do analysis on all the uses of the star icon (watch list)
and bookmark icon in a systematic way, considering all the uses of each"
There was a brief mention of this in May Galloway's Wikimania2014
presentation
<https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/User_interface:_Consis…>.
See this slide:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1VYGOLDKQ4Sntv9UgkH34KUk_FyjAaUvc1ei…
I think there was also a related page on mw.o but I can't find it.
I would strongly caution against using the 5 pointed star icon for yet
another meaning (especially as it is so prominently used in both
Chrome/Firefox interfaces as a plain browser-bookmark, and prominently
within wikis as the add-to-watchlist link.)
The "downward arrow (towards a horizontal line, or from a cloud)" seem to
be somewhat common alternative:
https://www.google.ca/search?q=offline+save+icon&tbm=isch - I'd recommend
the former.
Re: slide 42 - "Currently the Android" [the sentence cuts off there].
Thanks for sharing!
On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Abbey Ripstra <aripstra(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
> Hi Everybody!
>
> Here
> <https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/presentation/d/15S6T_nZFatNp7tF3Hq9…> is
> the report for this study, where we tested three (online to offline) ideas
> with a set of users we could reach from here in SF.
>
> Please check it out, and respond here with any questions, thoughts,
> interesting info that could inform our thinking further, etc. A few things
> to note:
>
>
> - The feedback in this report has already been incorporated into the
> prototypes, where needed for our next round of research. (Thanks reading
> web team!)
> - We will continue the testing in India because it is MUCH easier to
> reach our target users there.
> - We will build on the set of learnings in this report with the
> outcomes of the research in India.
> - The recruit for research in India is starting now, and testing will
> begin within a week or so.
> - We will upload this to commons and can post it in the next update
>
> More to follow!
>
> --
> *Abbey Ripstra*
> Lead Design Researcher \\ Wikimedia Foundation
> M +1 773 412 7463
>
> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in
> the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
>
> _______________________________________________
> reading-wmf mailing list
> reading-wmf(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/reading-wmf
>
>
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