Re: [Multimedia] Project : New Media Types supported in Commons

On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Umang Sharma <umange(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > The X3D format provides an XML code as an source code. This XML script

> be used to extract information of the file. There are functions like > getScreenshot() which return a .png file of the 3D image. There are also > functions to manipulate the camera views (given in the API

> x3d). Using these views we can set a standard view and use the > getScreenshot() function to get a .png file. > How getScreenshot() actually works is : > " getScreenshot() > Returns: URL to image > Returns a Base64 encoded data URI containing png image consisting of the > current rendering. The browser will interpret this as a PNG image and > display it. A list of browsers which support data URI can be found

This seems to be a quote from the documentation for the X3DOM runtime api. X3DOM is a javascript library for browser-based display and manipulation of x3d content. It's not obvious to me by reading the documentation for X3DOM [0] that this library would be in any way useful for creating raster images from x3d files server-side. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:26 AM, Gilles Dubuc <gilles(a)wikimedia.org>

> > - Do X3D and COLLADA files always contain camera information? If they

The X3d spec defines a Viewpoint [1] node that can be used to provide a camera position. It seems that the conformance tests also expect that the default viewpoint for models which do not define one is (0 0 10) [2]. > Also, another question that needs to be answered is whether textures are > embedded in these files or if they are referenced. If they are

> instead of being embedded, then texture support in itself would be a

> matter (how would people upload the images needed as textures?), and

ImageTexture nodes define a url field [3] specifying the image to download and apply. This does complicate the server side processing quite a bit. We almost certainly wouldn't want to download the texture images in response to the need to generate a thumbnail. Downloading images to the servers could be done at upload time as a job similar to the way that GWToolset downloads images based on a bulk specification file. There are problems with this however including the fact that only a limited number of external domains are whitelisted for downloading. Things get even more complicated due to the MovieTexture node that can be used to bind MPEG1-Video as the texture for a surface. The inclusion of external content as textures seems to also raise a potential privacy concern for allowing users to view the x3d content directly in their browser via X3DOM or other javascript/HTML5 rendering techniques. If the textures are drawn from sources outside of commons and/or the bits servers it would be possible to effectively track the viewers of the models ala the classic single pixel advertising tracking bug. This becomes even more troubling if one imagines allowing embedding a x3d directly in an article page which could allow tracking viewers of that article. This leads me to believe that we would have to import all texture files to commons and rewrite the model to reference content from there rather than an external host. [0]: http://x3dom.org/docs/dev/ [1]:

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