Is any followup to the earlier RfC planned,
regarding converting mp4-to-ogg on upload?

My understanding is that as a result of the RfC discussion, we're currently not considering any use of mp4 on wikimedia sites. That means transcoding mp4 files on upload is also out of the question. Wikimedia servers just won't support mp4 in any way. That was a direct result of the RfC discussion.

Which is why we're looking into importing open formats from other sites at the moment. It can be considered somewhat of a workaround from an end-user perspective, as some of these websites allow uploads in closed formats, mp4 included.

We might bring up more hybrid solutions that were not proposed in the RfC later for the community to consider (eg. letting a 3rd-party such as the internet archive do the transcoding on our behalf at upload time). But these ideas would definitely be controversial and require another round of community feedback. They're not being actively explored at the moment, besides asking these 3rd parties if they would be willing to do it.

For now we're quite confident that a Flickr-like import of videos in open formats is a safe bet which is compatible with the community's values.


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you, Fabrice.  Is any followup to the earlier RfC planned,
regarding converting mp4-to-ogg on upload?

That seemed like the main unresolved aspect of the discussion.    SJ

On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Fabrice Florin <fflorin@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Here are our notes from yesterday's multimedia team meeting, when we planned
> our next development cycles.
>
> We discussed our goals for the next 6-week cycle, as well as for subsequent
> cycles. We agreed to focus on wrapping up feature development and gradually
> releasing Media Viewer v0.2 in April/May, so we can move on to other
> important tasks on our roadmap.
>
> To stay focused on this goal, we decided to devote the next 6-week cycle to
> completing final features for the first pilot release of Media Viewer v0.2
> in the next cycle.
>
> We will then switch our focus to Upload Wizard and Structured Data in the
> subsequent cycle, only fixing Media Viewer bugs as needed. We expect this
> new work to continue to be our main focus through the summer.
>
> To make rapid progress on these important multimedia priorities, we may need
> to push back the next version of Media Viewer 0.3 to later in the year -- or
> only do incremental work on it in the next quarters.
>
> Our current goals for the next few cycles are outlined below -- and you can
> read more on our meeting notepad:
> http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/multimedia-planning-meeting-2014-03-12
>
> We welcome your comments, questions and suggestions about these proposed
> goals. We expect to adjust them periodically, based on this feedback and
> other factors.
>
> Please respond by email for now. You can also post comments about Media
> Viewer on this discussion page:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Multimedia/About_Media_Viewer
>
> Thanks as always for your constructive feedback, which is invaluable to us!
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Fabrice
> on behalf of the Multimedia team
>
> ____________________________________________
>
> MULTIMEDIA TEAM GOALS - NEXT CYCLES
>
> Here are our proposed goals for the multimedia team's next development
> cycles. (We define a cycle as a 6-week iteration, which includes 6 weekly
> sprints; it can also include one or more product releases).
>
> We will be discussing these goals with community and team members in coming
> days. We expect to adjust them periodically, based on this feedback and
> other factors.
>
> 1. Goals for Current Cycle
> * Current Cycle started February 6, ends March 19  (second half of fiscal
> Q3).
> * Media Viewer v0.2 - Develop key features for pilot release in April
> * Analyze image load metrics, define acceptance criteria
> * Bugs & Technical Debt - Ongoing
> * See Mingle wall of tasks completed this cycle: http://ur1.ca/gtyvh
>
> 2. Goals for Next Cycle
> * Starts March 20, ends April 30 (first half of fiscal Q4).
> * Media Viewer v0.2 - Complete key features and launch tasks for April
> release
> * Release Media Viewer v0.2 in April/May (MW.org > small wikis > large wikis
>> all wikis)
> * Fix Media Viewer v0.2 Bugs (address most urgent community concerns)
> * Upload Wizard - Fix large bugs, collect metrics, unit tests, plan next
> steps
> * Bugs & Technical Debt - Ongoing
> * See Mingle wall: http://ur1.ca/gtvvr
>
> 3. Goals for Subsequent Cycle
> * Starts May 1, ends June 11 (second half of fiscal Q4)
> * Upload Wizard - improve UI design, incremental code refactoring, new
> features
> * Fix Media Viewer v0.2 Bugs (focus on most important community concerns)
> * Structured Data - start planning and first prototypes, with Wikidata and
> community
> * File Notifications - Your file was used
> * See Mingle wall: http://ur1.ca/gtyt3
>
> 4. Goals for 'Next-Subsequent' Cycle
> * Starts June 12, ends July 23 (first half of fiscal Q1)
> * Upload Wizard continued improvements and bug fixes, as needed
> * Structured Data - start implementation on Commons, with Wikidata and
> community
> * Fix Media Viewer v0.2 Bugs (focus on most important issues)
>
> As time allows, we will consider incremental work on these goals throughout
> next year:
> * Media Viewer v0.3 - Develop new features (zoom, A/V support, plugins)
> * File Feedback - Develop positive feedback tool (Thanks, Watch or Favorite)
>
>
> Useful links
>
> * Multimedia Project Hub
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia
>
> * About Media Viewer
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia/About_Media_Viewer
>
> * Media Viewer Release Plan
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia/Media_Viewer/Release_Plan
>
>
> _______________________________
>
> Fabrice Florin
> Product Manager, Multimedia
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF)
>
>
>
>
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