Moving to mobile-l. Discuss.
-Adam
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
cc. reading-list. You'll get more feedback there :) Short reply: There are lots of bugs and larger problems here that need to be solved.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Jacob Rogers jrogers@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Jon,
James A suggested you might be the right person to talk with about
improving
the readability of the WMF privacy policy on mobile devices. Currently,
it's
pretty difficult to look at. It starts with the massive language list,
the
disclaimer renders 1-2 words a line, and the blue boxes also render in
hard
to read lines as well as pushing the main section to scroll off the
screen.
If you are the right person, what I'm hoping we can do is make the
language
list into an expandable menu, get rid of the blue boxes on the sides if necessary, and possibly make the examples into an expandable view rather than have everything shown by default.
If you're not the right person to this, could you forward me on to
someone
that might be able to help?
Many thanks, Jacob --
Jacob Rogers Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation
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see
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Hi Jacob I've cc'ed wikitech to get an update on bug https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T483 The last update here was in February 2015. I personally think this is one of our most urgent bugs to fix, but it's not clear who is responsible for this, and who has the expertise to help resolve it.
The fundamental issue this privacy policy hits, is many our editors are also hitting - that there is no way to style wikitext content differently on a mobile screen. This has been a recurring problem for some time now. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T483
The only way to make any progress here currently is the following: * Add the nomobile class to an element to hide it * Add a reset rule to MediaWiki:Common.css to reset problematic styles e.g. https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Mobile.css
I'm near positive these very same issues were discussed over a year go for the privacy policy on English Wikipedia and I think the conclusion was there was little that could be done in current form (if anyone can remember where that conversation happened).
Note: For wikimediafoundation.org it might be acceptable to move all inline style rules into https://m.wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Mobile.css and use media queries to style content differently. Any capable web developer should be able to help you with that (I'm not sure who is building the privacy policy for you).
Jon
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Moving to mobile-l. Discuss.
-Adam
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
cc. reading-list. You'll get more feedback there :) Short reply: There are lots of bugs and larger problems here that need to be solved.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Jacob Rogers jrogers@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Jon,
James A suggested you might be the right person to talk with about improving the readability of the WMF privacy policy on mobile devices. Currently, it's pretty difficult to look at. It starts with the massive language list, the disclaimer renders 1-2 words a line, and the blue boxes also render in hard to read lines as well as pushing the main section to scroll off the screen.
If you are the right person, what I'm hoping we can do is make the language list into an expandable menu, get rid of the blue boxes on the sides if necessary, and possibly make the examples into an expandable view rather than have everything shown by default.
If you're not the right person to this, could you forward me on to someone that might be able to help?
Many thanks, Jacob --
Jacob Rogers Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation
NOTICE: This message might have confidential or legally privileged information in it. If you have received this message by accident, please delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. For more on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer.
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On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Jacob I've cc'ed wikitech to get an update on bug https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T483 The last update here was in February 2015. I personally think this is one of our most urgent bugs to fix, but it's not clear who is responsible for this, and who has the expertise to help resolve it.
The fundamental issue this privacy policy hits, is many our editors are also hitting - that there is no way to style wikitext content differently on a mobile screen. This has been a recurring problem for some time now. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T483
The only way to make any progress here currently is the following:
- Add the nomobile class to an element to hide it
- Add a reset rule to MediaWiki:Common.css to reset problematic styles
e.g. https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Mobile.css
I'm near positive these very same issues were discussed over a year go for the privacy policy on English Wikipedia and I think the conclusion was there was little that could be done in current form (if anyone can remember where that conversation happened).
Note: For wikimediafoundation.org it might be acceptable to move all inline style rules into https://m.wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Mobile.css and use media queries to style content differently. Any capable web developer should be able to help you with that (I'm not sure who is building the privacy policy for you).
Jon
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Moving to mobile-l. Discuss.
-Adam
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
cc. reading-list. You'll get more feedback there :) Short reply: There are lots of bugs and larger problems here that need to be solved.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Jacob Rogers jrogers@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Jon,
James A suggested you might be the right person to talk with about improving the readability of the WMF privacy policy on mobile devices. Currently, it's pretty difficult to look at. It starts with the massive language list, the disclaimer renders 1-2 words a line, and the blue boxes also render in hard to read lines as well as pushing the main section to scroll off the screen.
If you are the right person, what I'm hoping we can do is make the language list into an expandable menu, get rid of the blue boxes on the sides if necessary, and possibly make the examples into an expandable view rather than have everything shown by default.
If you're not the right person to this, could you forward me on to someone that might be able to help?
Many thanks, Jacob --
Jacob Rogers Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation
NOTICE: This message might have confidential or legally privileged information in it. If you have received this message by accident, please delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. For more on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer.
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