Hi everyone,
I just reviewed the work on wrapping up disambiguation and page issues into buttons in the interface. I think we need to iterate more before it's ready.
Some thoughts on page issues:
- The "Page issues" dialogue that's opened up is a little bit large. Ideally it'd be pretty much full screen, but there'd be just enough space around the edges that I can tap outside it to close it without having to resort to using the back button. - Having just an icon is confusing for page issues. It's not clear what a little blue flag means. Let's put "Page issues" next to the icon inside the button.
Some thoughts on similar titles:
- The copy of "Similar titles" is ambiguous and doesn't adequately convey the interaction that results from pressing it. I know we want to keep it short, but right now it's not getting the point across. - The interaction of the button itself also proved to be a little problematic. When I place myself in the shoes of the user, and tap it with curiosity, I'm flung to another page and I'm not really sure what happened. It's quite jarring. It's not easy for me to connect "X (Disambiguation)" with the "Similar titles" button I pressed.
Generally:
- The colouring of the buttons, in blue, makes them really stand out. The colouring of the rest of the interface there, in black, really brings those buttons to the foreground. I think this has made them too prominent.
These points are mostly raising more questions than they're answering, so we'll still need to figure out solutions to the points.
Overall, I like the direction we're going with these features. They're really bringing the content to the forefront of the experience. But they're not quite ready yet. Let's keep iterating. :-)
Thanks, Dan
Dan, thanks for this! Comments Noted! The copy concerns can now be addressed. I'll take a pass at styling it with Dmitry but I also need to get opinions from the rest of Design on the color/ weight etc.
Dmitry and I will tinker with it and send along some stuff next week. Enjoy your flight!
Thanks Vibha
---- Vibha Bamba Senior Designer | WMF Design
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
I just reviewed the work on wrapping up disambiguation and page issues into buttons in the interface. I think we need to iterate more before it's ready.
Some thoughts on page issues:
- The "Page issues" dialogue that's opened up is a little bit large.
Ideally it'd be pretty much full screen, but there'd be just enough space around the edges that I can tap outside it to close it without having to resort to using the back button.
- Having just an icon is confusing for page issues. It's not clear
what a little blue flag means. Let's put "Page issues" next to the icon inside the button.
Some thoughts on similar titles:
- The copy of "Similar titles" is ambiguous and doesn't adequately
convey the interaction that results from pressing it. I know we want to keep it short, but right now it's not getting the point across.
- The interaction of the button itself also proved to be a little
problematic. When I place myself in the shoes of the user, and tap it with curiosity, I'm flung to another page and I'm not really sure what happened. It's quite jarring. It's not easy for me to connect "X (Disambiguation)" with the "Similar titles" button I pressed.
Generally:
- The colouring of the buttons, in blue, makes them really stand out.
The colouring of the rest of the interface there, in black, really brings those buttons to the foreground. I think this has made them too prominent.
These points are mostly raising more questions than they're answering, so we'll still need to figure out solutions to the points.
Overall, I like the direction we're going with these features. They're really bringing the content to the forefront of the experience. But they're not quite ready yet. Let's keep iterating. :-)
Thanks, Dan
-- Dan Garry Associate Product Manager, Mobile Apps Wikimedia Foundation
Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
I just played a lot more with the 30th July Android Build that Dmitry had sent out. (sorry for being delayed on this, today was a bit of a crunch on IOS stuff) Dmitry & Bernd, thank you for all the hard work, investigation of the Wikipedia Manual of Style and template scrubbing effort you have put into both disambiguation and page issues.
While I have noted Dan's points about clear labels, the general idea of creating a place for this (as opposed to running lines of text) feels like a huge improvement to me. Some of the problems you have tackled here will help us on IOS also.
I will work with you guys to make small color and copy tweaks (based on feedback from the design team). Further, some comparative usability testing around this with readers will inform us about language and iconography.
Vibha
---- Vibha Bamba Senior Designer | WMF Design
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Vibha Bamba vbamba@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dan, thanks for this! Comments Noted! The copy concerns can now be addressed. I'll take a pass at styling it with Dmitry but I also need to get opinions from the rest of Design on the color/ weight etc.
Dmitry and I will tinker with it and send along some stuff next week. Enjoy your flight!
Thanks Vibha
Vibha Bamba Senior Designer | WMF Design
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
I just reviewed the work on wrapping up disambiguation and page issues into buttons in the interface. I think we need to iterate more before it's ready.
Some thoughts on page issues:
- The "Page issues" dialogue that's opened up is a little bit large.
Ideally it'd be pretty much full screen, but there'd be just enough space around the edges that I can tap outside it to close it without having to resort to using the back button.
- Having just an icon is confusing for page issues. It's not clear
what a little blue flag means. Let's put "Page issues" next to the icon inside the button.
Some thoughts on similar titles:
- The copy of "Similar titles" is ambiguous and doesn't adequately
convey the interaction that results from pressing it. I know we want to keep it short, but right now it's not getting the point across.
- The interaction of the button itself also proved to be a little
problematic. When I place myself in the shoes of the user, and tap it with curiosity, I'm flung to another page and I'm not really sure what happened. It's quite jarring. It's not easy for me to connect "X (Disambiguation)" with the "Similar titles" button I pressed.
Generally:
- The colouring of the buttons, in blue, makes them really stand out.
The colouring of the rest of the interface there, in black, really brings those buttons to the foreground. I think this has made them too prominent.
These points are mostly raising more questions than they're answering, so we'll still need to figure out solutions to the points.
Overall, I like the direction we're going with these features. They're really bringing the content to the forefront of the experience. But they're not quite ready yet. Let's keep iterating. :-)
Thanks, Dan
-- Dan Garry Associate Product Manager, Mobile Apps Wikimedia Foundation
Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l