Minh, thanks for the awesome feedback! Response inline.
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Minh Nguyen <mxn(a)1ec5.org> wrote:
On 2014-11-25 13:27, Adam Baso wrote:
Federico, you're right -
www.wikipedia.org/
<http://www.wikipedia.org/>
gets a lot more traffic than
m.wikipedia.org/ <http://m.wikipedia.org/>;
www.wikipedia.org/ <http://www.wikipedia.org/> skews more toward
English, for several reasons, but it still seems like wiring up a
JavaScript widget to talk to an API that examines the Accept-Languages,
or something like that, might be useful for multilingual users and users
not reading a language listed toward the top of the page. I'm currently
pretty busy, but we could maybe at least ask Mxn (if not on this list)
what Mxn thinks, as Mxn has been pretty involved with the global
Wikipedia portal template.
The portals currently use navigator.languages/.language/.userLanguage to
have the search box default to the first Accept-Language language. I would
certainly be open to having the portal react more noticeably to this value,
for instance by dynamically placing it in the top 10 ring, displacing one
of the larger wikis. Any change in behavior is going to need approval from
the Meta community at least, but that shouldn't stop us from trying.
Yeah, I really like that feature on the search box.
I also like your idea about dynamically updating a lang in the top 10 ring.
If a dynamic update to the ring isn't okay, I wonder if people would be
okay with shimming in the .language/.userLanguage-mapped language
(.languages-mapped languages) between the top 10 langs and the search box,
for any language not already in the top 10?
If OTOH the suggestion is to immediately redirect to the indicated
language edition, I'd want to see statistics on the percentage of Wikipedia
visitors whose Accept-Language or UI language actually matches their home
wiki. I suspect that many just leave it set to their operating system
language, which doesn't necessarily match their favorite wiki. It's one
thing for mdot to redirect, because mobile users would be less interested
in a landing page with tiny links. But if the main portal redirects, we'll
quickly get flak for being too [insert language]-centric.
Agreed. The suggestion isn't immediate redirect on
www.wikipedia.org.
Should I BCC Mxn on this thread, or email Mxn
off-thread? Mxn tries to avoid spam from what I
can tell on Mxn's
personal website.
My resistance has been futile so far. :-\
Me too :)