On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Mobilizers, > > 1. Do you think it would make sense to develop a Wikipedia app for > Kindle, or to encourage Amazon to do so or financially sponsor its > development? > Kindle Fire devices are Android-based and can run the existing Android Wikipedia app. The bare-bones e-ink Kindle readers are another story perhaps. :) > 2. Same questions for Windows and Microsoft, especially considering > the Windows 10 launch. > I did an experimental JavaScript/WinJS-based Windows tablet app back for the Windows 8 launch, which is still in the Windows Store but needs to be cleaned up for Windows 10 or perhaps killed and replaced. :) Windows 10 will also have a Mobile edition for phones 'and small tablets'; there's a unified app platform between desktop and mobile on Windows 10 so it should be possible to adapt the tablet app to run on phones (or rewrite it entirely to run on both!) There's also been some talk about using the framework Microsoft has put together for porting Android apps to Windows 10 Mobile, but I don't think anybody has a good handle on how tricky that will be to use, or the cost-benefit of working on Windows 10 Mobile in general. I've also floated the idea of cleaning up / replacing the experimental Firefox OS app (which is based on our old PhoneGap app code) and using a modernized HTML5+JS app for both Firefox OS and Windows 10 Tablet/Mobile. Nobody's bitten on the idea yet, but I think it might be better than trying to separately spin up resources for multiple minority mobile OSs. -- brion

Firefox OS app (which is based on our old PhoneGap app code) and using a modernized HTML5+JS app for both Firefox OS and Windows 10 Tablet/Mobile. Nobody's bitten on the idea yet, but I think it might be better than trying to separately spin up resources for multiple minority mobile OSs.

Hey! I believe we update the Wikipedia for Fire OS (Android) app[0] whenever a production version has fully rolled out on Play, although we don't offer the Beta[2] on Appstore. I can see they're both currently at the latest and greatest. I don't have Fire device presently, but if you highlight a term for sharing and have Wikipedia installed, you should get the option to search with the app. I *thought* there was also some additional platform level support for Wikipedia lookups built by Amazon but I might be mistaken. --stephen [0] https://www.amazon.com/gp/mas/dl/android?p=org.wikipedia [1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia [2] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia.beta On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Brion, > > Ok, thanks. > > Is the Wikipedia app promoted to Kindle Fire users very much? It would > be interesting if highlighting a term in a Kindle book or newspaper would > take the user to a Wikipedia or Wiktionary article for definitions and > background info. > > I wonder if Microsoft would be willing to support Wikipedia app > development for Windows with Microsoft financing or in-kind contribution of > developer time. Any thoughts? > > Pine > On Jul 25, 2015 6:08 PM, "Brion Vibber" <bvibber(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > >> On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Mobilizers, >>> >>> 1. Do you think it would make sense to develop a Wikipedia app for >>> Kindle, or to encourage Amazon to do so or financially sponsor its >>> development? >>> >> >> Kindle Fire devices are Android-based and can run the existing >> Android Wikipedia app. The bare-bones e-ink Kindle readers are another >> story perhaps. :) >> >> >>> 2. Same questions for Windows and Microsoft, especially considering >>> the Windows 10 launch. >>> >> >> I did an experimental JavaScript/WinJS-based Windows tablet app back >> for the Windows 8 launch, which is still in the Windows Store but needs to >> be cleaned up for Windows 10 or perhaps killed and replaced. :) >> >> Windows 10 will also have a Mobile edition for phones 'and small >> tablets'; there's a unified app platform between desktop and mobile on >> Windows 10 so it should be possible to adapt the tablet app to run on >> phones (or rewrite it entirely to run on both!) >> >> >> There's also been some talk about using the framework Microsoft has >> put together for porting Android apps to Windows 10 Mobile, but I don't >> think anybody has a good handle on how tricky that will be to use, or the >> cost-benefit of working on Windows 10 Mobile in general. >> >> I've also floated the idea of cleaning up / replacing the >> experimental Firefox OS app (which is based on our old PhoneGap app code) >> and using a modernized HTML5+JS app for both Firefox OS and Windows 10 >> Tablet/Mobile. Nobody's bitten on the idea yet, but I think it might be >> better than trying to separately spin up resources for multiple minority >> mobile OSs. >> >> -- brion >> > > _______________________________________________ > Mobile-l mailing list > Mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > > _______________________________________________ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l

The old PhoneGap app repo lives here on GitHub: https://github.com/wikimedia/WikipediaMobile (I haven't touched it and can't speak to its current state.) On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Joaquin Oltra Hernandez < jhernandez(a)wikimedia.org&gt; wrote: > I've also floated the idea of cleaning up / replacing the experimental >> Firefox OS app (which is based on our old PhoneGap app code) and using a >> modernized HTML5+JS app for both Firefox OS and Windows 10 Tablet/Mobile. >> Nobody's bitten on the idea yet, but I think it might be better than trying >> to separately spin up resources for multiple minority mobile OSs. > > > Where is such phonegap app? I'm very interested in building a web > client and have already been doing so for the last 2 hackathons > <http://chimeces.com/webkipedia/> (T106275 > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106275>) and I'm working on it > thinking mobile first. > > I would be very interested in checking the feature set of the old > phonegap app and when good enough, making an effort to package something > like that web client for firefoxOS & windows phone. > > Thoughts? > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 4:10 AM, Stephen Niedzielski < > sniedzielski(a)wikimedia.org&gt; wrote: > >> Hey! I believe we update the Wikipedia for Fire OS (Android) app[0] >> whenever a production version has fully rolled out on Play, although we >> don't offer the Beta[2] on Appstore. I can see they're both currently at >> the latest and greatest. I don't have Fire device presently, but if you >> highlight a term for sharing and have Wikipedia installed, you should get >> the option to search with the app. I *thought* there was also some >> additional platform level support for Wikipedia lookups built by Amazon but >> I might be mistaken. >> >> >> --stephen >> >> [0] https://www.amazon.com/gp/mas/dl/android?p=org.wikipedia >> [1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia >> [2] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia.beta >> >> On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Pine W &lt;wiki.pine(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >> >>> Hi Brion, >>> >>> Ok, thanks. >>> >>> Is the Wikipedia app promoted to Kindle Fire users very much? It >>> would be interesting if highlighting a term in a Kindle book or newspaper >>> would take the user to a Wikipedia or Wiktionary article for definitions >>> and background info. >>> >>> I wonder if Microsoft would be willing to support Wikipedia app >>> development for Windows with Microsoft financing or in-kind contribution of >>> developer time. Any thoughts? >>> >>> Pine >>> On Jul 25, 2015 6:08 PM, "Brion Vibber" &lt;bvibber(a)wikimedia.org&gt; >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Pine W &lt;wiki.pine(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Mobilizers, >>>>> >>>>> 1. Do you think it would make sense to develop a Wikipedia app for >>>>> Kindle, or to encourage Amazon to do so or financially sponsor its >>>>> development? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Kindle Fire devices are Android-based and can run the existing >>>> Android Wikipedia app. The bare-bones e-ink Kindle readers are another >>>> story perhaps. :) >>>> >>>> >>>>> 2. Same questions for Windows and Microsoft, especially >>>>> considering the Windows 10 launch. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I did an experimental JavaScript/WinJS-based Windows tablet app >>>> back for the Windows 8 launch, which is still in the Windows Store but >>>> needs to be cleaned up for Windows 10 or perhaps killed and replaced. :) >>>> >>>> Windows 10 will also have a Mobile edition for phones 'and small >>>> tablets'; there's a unified app platform between desktop and mobile on >>>> Windows 10 so it should be possible to adapt the tablet app to run on >>>> phones (or rewrite it entirely to run on both!) >>>> >>>> >>>> There's also been some talk about using the framework Microsoft has >>>> put together for porting Android apps to Windows 10 Mobile, but I don't >>>> think anybody has a good handle on how tricky that will be to use, or the >>>> cost-benefit of working on Windows 10 Mobile in general. >>>> >>>> I've also floated the idea of cleaning up / replacing the >>>> experimental Firefox OS app (which is based on our old PhoneGap app code) >>>> and using a modernized HTML5+JS app for both Firefox OS and Windows 10 >>>> Tablet/Mobile. Nobody's bitten on the idea yet, but I think it might be >>>> better than trying to separately spin up resources for multiple minority >>>> mobile OSs. >>>> >>>> -- brion >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mobile-l mailing list >>> Mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mobile-l mailing list >> Mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Mobile-l mailing list > Mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > > _______________________________________________ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l

My understanding is: in part, although people who were on the mobile team during the most active part of these projects are probably best situated to speak to it. There's also this page that has some historical information: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Wikipedia/Hybrid_notes -Adam On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Stephane Bisson &lt;sbisson(a)wikimedia.org > wrote: > Is the firefox os wikipedia app that's currently out there based on > the old phonegap app? > > https://marketplace.firefox.com/app/wikipedia/ > > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/projects/apps/firefox/wikipedia > > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Michael Holloway < > mholloway(a)wikimedia.org&gt; wrote: > >> The old PhoneGap app repo lives here on GitHub: >> https://github.com/wikimedia/WikipediaMobile >> >> (I haven't touched it and can't speak to its current state.) >> >> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Joaquin Oltra Hernandez < >> jhernandez(a)wikimedia.org&gt; wrote: >> >>> I've also floated the idea of cleaning up / replacing the >>>> experimental Firefox OS app (which is based on our old PhoneGap app code) >>>> and using a modernized HTML5+JS app for both Firefox OS and Windows 10 >>>> Tablet/Mobile. Nobody's bitten on the idea yet, but I think it might be >>>> better than trying to separately spin up resources for multiple minority >>>> mobile OSs. >>> >>> >>> Where is such phonegap app? I'm very interested in building a web >>> client and have already been doing so for the last 2 hackathons >>> <http://chimeces.com/webkipedia/> (T106275 >>> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106275>) and I'm working on it >>> thinking mobile first. >>> >>> I would be very interested in checking the feature set of the old >>> phonegap app and when good enough, making an effort to package something >>> like that web client for firefoxOS & windows phone. >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 4:10 AM, Stephen Niedzielski < >>> sniedzielski(a)wikimedia.org&gt; wrote: >>> >>>> Hey! I believe we update the Wikipedia for Fire OS (Android) >>>> app[0] whenever a production version has fully rolled out on Play, although >>>> we don't offer the Beta[2] on Appstore. I can see they're both currently at >>>> the latest and greatest. I don't have Fire device presently, but if you >>>> highlight a term for sharing and have Wikipedia installed, you should get >>>> the option to search with the app. I *thought* there was also some >>>> additional platform level support for Wikipedia lookups built by Amazon but >>>> I might be mistaken. >>>> >>>> >>>> --stephen >>>> >>>> [0] https://www.amazon.com/gp/mas/dl/android?p=org.wikipedia >>>> [1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia >>>> [2] >>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia.beta >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Pine W &lt;wiki.pine(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Brion, >>>>> >>>>> Ok, thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Is the Wikipedia app promoted to Kindle Fire users very much? It >>>>> would be interesting if highlighting a term in a Kindle book or newspaper >>>>> would take the user to a Wikipedia or Wiktionary article for definitions >>>>> and background info. >>>>> >>>>> I wonder if Microsoft would be willing to support Wikipedia app >>>>> development for Windows with Microsoft financing or in-kind contribution of >>>>> developer time. Any thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> Pine >>>>> On Jul 25, 2015 6:08 PM, "Brion Vibber" &lt;bvibber(a)wikimedia.org&gt; >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Pine W &lt;wiki.pine(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Mobilizers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Do you think it would make sense to develop a Wikipedia app >>>>>>> for Kindle, or to encourage Amazon to do so or financially sponsor its >>>>>>> development? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Kindle Fire devices are Android-based and can run the existing >>>>>> Android Wikipedia app. The bare-bones e-ink Kindle readers are another >>>>>> story perhaps. :) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. Same questions for Windows and Microsoft, especially >>>>>>> considering the Windows 10 launch. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I did an experimental JavaScript/WinJS-based Windows tablet app >>>>>> back for the Windows 8 launch, which is still in the Windows Store but >>>>>> needs to be cleaned up for Windows 10 or perhaps killed and replaced. :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Windows 10 will also have a Mobile edition for phones 'and small >>>>>> tablets'; there's a unified app platform between desktop and mobile on >>>>>> Windows 10 so it should be possible to adapt the tablet app to run on >>>>>> phones (or rewrite it entirely to run on both!) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> There's also been some talk about using the framework Microsoft >>>>>> has put together for porting Android apps to Windows 10 Mobile, but I don't >>>>>> think anybody has a good handle on how tricky that will be to use, or the >>>>>> cost-benefit of working on Windows 10 Mobile in general. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've also floated the idea of cleaning up / replacing the >>>>>> experimental Firefox OS app (which is based on our old PhoneGap app code) >>>>>> and using a modernized HTML5+JS app for both Firefox OS and Windows 10 >>>>>> Tablet/Mobile. Nobody's bitten on the idea yet, but I think it might be >>>>>> better than trying to separately spin up resources for multiple minority >>>>>> mobile OSs. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- brion >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mobile-l mailing list >>>>> Mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mobile-l mailing list >>>> Mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mobile-l mailing list >>> Mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mobile-l mailing list >> Mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >> >> > > > -- > Stephane Bisson > Wikimedia Foundation > 1 416 270 3830 > > _______________________________________________ > Mobile-l mailing list > Mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > > _______________________________________________ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l