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Amir E. Aharoni

21 Feb 21 Feb

4:44 p.m.

Hi Jon, The main statistics and analysis site for Wikimedia projects is http://stats.wikimedia.org . Browser statistics are here: http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm Unfortunately, currently there are no details statistics about browser usage per country. These may come in the future. You can find more statistics about countries and subdomains (such as en.wikipedia.org, fr.wikipedia.org, en.m.wikipedia.org etc.) in other sections of the site. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2012/2/21 Jon Robson <jrobson(a)wikimedia.org>rg>:

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I was wondering if there has been any analysis on the types of browsers that users use to access MediaWiki sites. I've been working on the MobileFrontend extension and am keen to understand the audience better. I've had a look around the internet but it's a big place and I've not found anything yet. :) In particular I was interested if there is any evidence that certain people in certain countries use Wikipedia's/other mediawiki instance mobile site on desktop computers due to the lower page size/load and what browsers they use to do this. Grateful for any light that can be shed on this subject. Thanks in advance! Jon -- Jon Robson _______________________________________________ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l

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Fábio Magnoni

11:46 p.m.

There a stats about the Mobile usage, organic from the device, like using the Google Analytics to see specific usage? I'm asking because I didn't find it on http://stats.wikimedia.org 2012/2/21 Philip Chang <pchang(a)wikimedia.org>

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Just to let everyone now, there are some modifications to SquidReportClients in process. It looks like the mobile numbers will be slightly larger. And it should be noted that the daily average shown in the SquidReportClients report projects a much higher monthly number than reported in the monthly report. But that is a different topic. Phil On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Amir E. Aharoni < amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:

Hi Jon, The main statistics and analysis site for Wikimedia projects is http://stats.wikimedia.org . Browser statistics are here: http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm Unfortunately, currently there are no details statistics about browser usage per country. These may come in the future. You can find more statistics about countries and subdomains (such as en.wikipedia.org, fr.wikipedia.org, en.m.wikipedia.org etc.) in other sections of the site. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2012/2/21 Jon Robson <jrobson(a)wikimedia.org>rg>:

I was wondering if there has been any analysis on the types of browsers that users use to access MediaWiki sites. I've been working on the MobileFrontend extension and am keen to understand the audience better. I've had a look around the internet but it's a big place and I've not found anything yet. :) In particular I was interested if there is any evidence that certain people in certain countries use Wikipedia's/other mediawiki instance mobile site on desktop computers due to the lower page size/load and what browsers they use to do this. Grateful for any light that can be shed on this subject. Thanks in advance! Jon -- Jon Robson _______________________________________________ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l

_______________________________________________ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l

-- Phil Inje Chang Product Manager, Mobile Wikimedia Foundation 415-812-0854 m 415-882-7982 x 6810 _______________________________________________ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l

-- Fábio Réa Eng. de Computação - PUC-Campinas Wiki-keeper Ubuntu-BR-SP http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/UbuntuSP Eu prefiro receber documentos em ODF. Não sabe o que é? -> http://miud.in/V1

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Fábio Magnoni

12:29 a.m.

Sorry Philip, I didn't see it. Thanks :) 2012/2/21 Philip Chang <pchang(a)wikimedia.org>

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Fabio, If you look at this report: http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm You will see the category of mobile browsers, by browser name and browser version. Please feel free to ask other questions. Phil On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Fábio Magnoni <fabiohmagnoni(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

There a stats about the Mobile usage, organic from the device, like using the Google Analytics to see specific usage? I'm asking because I didn't find it on http://stats.wikimedia.org 2012/2/21 Philip Chang <pchang(a)wikimedia.org>

Just to let everyone now, there are some modifications to SquidReportClients in process. It looks like the mobile numbers will be slightly larger. And it should be noted that the daily average shown in the SquidReportClients report projects a much higher monthly number than reported in the monthly report. But that is a different topic. Phil On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Amir E. Aharoni < amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:

Hi Jon, The main statistics and analysis site for Wikimedia projects is http://stats.wikimedia.org . Browser statistics are here: http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm Unfortunately, currently there are no details statistics about browser usage per country. These may come in the future. You can find more statistics about countries and subdomains (such as en.wikipedia.org, fr.wikipedia.org, en.m.wikipedia.org etc.) in other sections of the site. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2012/2/21 Jon Robson <jrobson(a)wikimedia.org>rg>: > I was wondering if there has been any analysis on the types of > browsers that users use to access MediaWiki sites. I've been working > on the MobileFrontend extension and am keen to understand the audience > better. I've had a look around the internet but it's a big place and > I've not found anything yet. :) > > In particular I was interested if there is any evidence that certain > people in certain countries use Wikipedia's/other mediawiki instance > mobile site on desktop computers due to the lower page size/load and > what browsers they use to do this. > > Grateful for any light that can be shed on this subject. > Thanks in advance! > Jon > -- > Jon Robson > > _______________________________________________ > Mobile-l mailing list > Mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l _______________________________________________ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l

-- Phil Inje Chang Product Manager, Mobile Wikimedia Foundation 415-812-0854 m 415-882-7982 x 6810 _______________________________________________ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l

-- Fábio Réa Eng. de Computação - PUC-Campinas Wiki-keeper Ubuntu-BR-SP http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/UbuntuSP Eu prefiro receber documentos em ODF. Não sabe o que é? -> http://miud.in/V1

-- Phil Inje Chang Product Manager, Mobile Wikimedia Foundation 415-812-0854 m 415-882-7982 x 6810

-- Fábio Réa Eng. de Computação - PUC-Campinas Wiki-keeper Ubuntu-BR-SP http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/UbuntuSP Eu prefiro receber documentos em ODF. Não sabe o que é? -> http://miud.in/V1

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Hampton Catlin

5:07 p.m.

I believe http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthlyMobile.htm might be what you are looking for. On Feb 22, 2012, at 1:55 AM, Jon Robson wrote:

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Thanks Amir for this. I'm not sure if this gives me the information I wanted though. For instance (I may be wrong) there seems to be no way to distinguish between visitors to the desktop and the mobile site on certain browsers. As a real example I'd like to know how many people are using Internet Explorer < 9 to access the mobile site m.wikipedia.org. Countries would also be useful - are there any plans to explore this? On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:

Hi Jon, The main statistics and analysis site for Wikimedia projects is http://stats.wikimedia.org . Browser statistics are here: http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm Unfortunately, currently there are no details statistics about browser usage per country. These may come in the future. You can find more statistics about countries and subdomains (such as en.wikipedia.org, fr.wikipedia.org, en.m.wikipedia.org etc.) in other sections of the site. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2012/2/21 Jon Robson <jrobson(a)wikimedia.org>rg>: > I was wondering if there has been any analysis on the types of > browsers that users use to access MediaWiki sites. I've been working > on the MobileFrontend extension and am keen to understand the audience > better. I've had a look around the internet but it's a big place and > I've not found anything yet. :) > > In particular I was interested if there is any evidence that certain > people in certain countries use Wikipedia's/other mediawiki instance > mobile site on desktop computers due to the lower page size/load and > what browsers they use to do this. > > Grateful for any light that can be shed on this subject. > Thanks in advance! > Jon > -- > Jon Robson > > _______________________________________________ > Mobile-l mailing list > Mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l

-- Jon Robson http://jonrobson.me.uk @rakugojon _______________________________________________ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l

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Andre Engels

5 Mar 5 Mar

4:03 p.m.

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Jon Robson <jrobson(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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I was wondering if there has been any analysis on the types of browsers that users use to access MediaWiki sites. I've been working on the MobileFrontend extension and am keen to understand the audience better. I've had a look around the internet but it's a big place and I've not found anything yet. :) In particular I was interested if there is any evidence that certain people in certain countries use Wikipedia's/other mediawiki instance mobile site on desktop computers due to the lower page size/load and what browsers they use to do this.

It's taken some more time than I had hoped, partly because there were some troubles in the recognition of mobile and non-mobile browsers, but I now have some data on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Analytics/Pageviews/Mobile/Results. They contain the language and geographical distribution of visits to the mobile site, and the mobile devices that have been used. The non-mobile percentage is somewhat higher than I earlier said, whether that is caused by the old data being wrong (by counting many desktop Safari visits as Android), or it is a change since August, I do not know. Based on your later message, I will now go and do a check on exactly which non-mobile browsers and browser versions have been used. André Engels

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