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On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
Note web has similar measurements and the findings here seem relatively consistent with apps.
http://mobile-reportcard.wmflabs.org/ On 25 Aug 2015 7:54 am, "Dmitry Brant" dbrant@wikimedia.org wrote:
Brian-- This data is just for the action of pulling out the nav menu and selecting an item or canceling. We are indeed logging taps on the Search button (in Android; not sure about iOS), but it's a separate action from the nav menu, so I'm not sure how meaningful it would be to graph those taps vs. the nav menu taps...
Stephen-- Yes, good point; we had a rough idea that the usage of Random was quite high, but this really proves it. In order for us to log when the user *doesn't* tap on something, we would need a true "session" funnel where we note these kinds of details. I think we have the beginnings of this in Android, and I think we should flesh it out more and deploy it soon.
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Brian Gerstle bgerstle@wikimedia.org wrote:
+1 great question stephen. seeing all of this correlated with user sessions would be great so we can start to hone in on specific scenarios or use cases.
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Stephen Niedzielski < sniedzielski@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Wow! I was most surprised by random! Surfacing interesting aggregated content sounds better and better. Any idea on what proportion of users who didn't engage the menu at all is?
--stephen On Aug 25, 2015 8:23 AM, "Dmitry Brant" dbrant@wikimedia.org wrote:
Ever wonder which Navigation menu items in our apps receive more taps than others? Well, wonder no more. Here's the breakdown, based on the numbers from the last ~3 weeks:
For Android:
[image: Inline image 1]
And for iOS:
[image: Inline image 2]
Some takeaways from these data:
- The rate of canceling the navigation menu is roughly the same on
both platforms.
- On iOS, the "Today" item is used nearly *three times* as much as it
is on Android.
- On Android, users care about Saved Pages twice as much as on iOS.
- On both platforms, engagement with Nearby isn't nearly as high as I
thought.
https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/spreadsheets/d/1z0lzjAieNfx0OEHj-wTw...
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I wonder if the differing start page behavior at app startup induces the material difference in Today taps?
For Saved Pages I wonder if it's related to data usage sensitivity and the differences in geographic distribution?
Got queries?
On Tuesday, August 25, 2015, Dmitry Brant <dbrant@wikimedia.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dbrant@wikimedia.org');> wrote:
+mobile-l
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
Note web has similar measurements and the findings here seem relatively consistent with apps.
http://mobile-reportcard.wmflabs.org/ On 25 Aug 2015 7:54 am, "Dmitry Brant" dbrant@wikimedia.org wrote:
Brian-- This data is just for the action of pulling out the nav menu and selecting an item or canceling. We are indeed logging taps on the Search button (in Android; not sure about iOS), but it's a separate action from the nav menu, so I'm not sure how meaningful it would be to graph those taps vs. the nav menu taps...
Stephen-- Yes, good point; we had a rough idea that the usage of Random was quite high, but this really proves it. In order for us to log when the user *doesn't* tap on something, we would need a true "session" funnel where we note these kinds of details. I think we have the beginnings of this in Android, and I think we should flesh it out more and deploy it soon.
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Brian Gerstle bgerstle@wikimedia.org wrote:
+1 great question stephen. seeing all of this correlated with user sessions would be great so we can start to hone in on specific scenarios or use cases.
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Stephen Niedzielski < sniedzielski@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Wow! I was most surprised by random! Surfacing interesting aggregated content sounds better and better. Any idea on what proportion of users who didn't engage the menu at all is?
--stephen On Aug 25, 2015 8:23 AM, "Dmitry Brant" dbrant@wikimedia.org wrote:
Ever wonder which Navigation menu items in our apps receive more taps than others? Well, wonder no more. Here's the breakdown, based on the numbers from the last ~3 weeks:
For Android:
[image: Inline image 1]
And for iOS:
[image: Inline image 2]
Some takeaways from these data:
- The rate of canceling the navigation menu is roughly the same on
both platforms.
- On iOS, the "Today" item is used nearly *three times* as much as
it is on Android.
- On Android, users care about Saved Pages twice as much as on iOS.
- On both platforms, engagement with Nearby isn't nearly as high as I
thought.
https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/spreadsheets/d/1z0lzjAieNfx0OEHj-wTw...
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For Android:
SELECT event_menuItem, COUNT(*) FROM MobileWikiAppNavMenu_12732211 WHERE userAgent LIKE '%Android%' AND (event_action = 'select' OR event_action = 'cancel') GROUP BY event_menuItem
For iOS:
SELECT event_menuItem, COUNT(*) FROM MobileWikiAppNavMenu_12732211 WHERE userAgent LIKE '%iPhone%' AND (event_action = 'select' OR event_action = 'cancel') GROUP BY event_menuItem
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
I wonder if the differing start page behavior at app startup induces the material difference in Today taps?
For Saved Pages I wonder if it's related to data usage sensitivity and the differences in geographic distribution?
Got queries?
On Tuesday, August 25, 2015, Dmitry Brant dbrant@wikimedia.org wrote:
+mobile-l
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
Note web has similar measurements and the findings here seem relatively consistent with apps.
http://mobile-reportcard.wmflabs.org/ On 25 Aug 2015 7:54 am, "Dmitry Brant" dbrant@wikimedia.org wrote:
Brian-- This data is just for the action of pulling out the nav menu and selecting an item or canceling. We are indeed logging taps on the Search button (in Android; not sure about iOS), but it's a separate action from the nav menu, so I'm not sure how meaningful it would be to graph those taps vs. the nav menu taps...
Stephen-- Yes, good point; we had a rough idea that the usage of Random was quite high, but this really proves it. In order for us to log when the user *doesn't* tap on something, we would need a true "session" funnel where we note these kinds of details. I think we have the beginnings of this in Android, and I think we should flesh it out more and deploy it soon.
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Brian Gerstle <bgerstle@wikimedia.org
wrote:
+1 great question stephen. seeing all of this correlated with user sessions would be great so we can start to hone in on specific scenarios or use cases.
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Stephen Niedzielski < sniedzielski@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Wow! I was most surprised by random! Surfacing interesting aggregated content sounds better and better. Any idea on what proportion of users who didn't engage the menu at all is?
--stephen On Aug 25, 2015 8:23 AM, "Dmitry Brant" dbrant@wikimedia.org wrote:
> Ever wonder which Navigation menu items in our apps receive more > taps than others? Well, wonder no more. Here's the breakdown, based on the > numbers from the last ~3 weeks: > > For Android: > > [image: Inline image 1] > > And for iOS: > > [image: Inline image 2] > > Some takeaways from these data: > - The rate of canceling the navigation menu is roughly the same on > both platforms. > - On iOS, the "Today" item is used nearly *three times* as much as > it is on Android. > - On Android, users care about Saved Pages twice as much as on iOS. > - On both platforms, engagement with Nearby isn't nearly as high as > I thought. > > > > https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/spreadsheets/d/1z0lzjAieNfx0OEHj-wTw... > > > -- > Dmitry Brant > Mobile Apps Team (Android) > Wikimedia Foundation > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_mobile_engineering > > > _______________________________________________ > reading-wmf mailing list > reading-wmf@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/reading-wmf > > _______________________________________________ reading-wmf mailing list reading-wmf@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/reading-wmf
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Thanks!
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Dmitry Brant dbrant@wikimedia.org wrote:
For Android:
SELECT event_menuItem, COUNT(*) FROM MobileWikiAppNavMenu_12732211 WHERE userAgent LIKE '%Android%' AND (event_action = 'select' OR event_action = 'cancel') GROUP BY event_menuItem
For iOS:
SELECT event_menuItem, COUNT(*) FROM MobileWikiAppNavMenu_12732211 WHERE userAgent LIKE '%iPhone%' AND (event_action = 'select' OR event_action = 'cancel') GROUP BY event_menuItem
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
I wonder if the differing start page behavior at app startup induces the material difference in Today taps?
For Saved Pages I wonder if it's related to data usage sensitivity and the differences in geographic distribution?
Got queries?
On Tuesday, August 25, 2015, Dmitry Brant dbrant@wikimedia.org wrote:
+mobile-l
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
Note web has similar measurements and the findings here seem relatively consistent with apps.
http://mobile-reportcard.wmflabs.org/ On 25 Aug 2015 7:54 am, "Dmitry Brant" dbrant@wikimedia.org wrote:
Brian-- This data is just for the action of pulling out the nav menu and selecting an item or canceling. We are indeed logging taps on the Search button (in Android; not sure about iOS), but it's a separate action from the nav menu, so I'm not sure how meaningful it would be to graph those taps vs. the nav menu taps...
Stephen-- Yes, good point; we had a rough idea that the usage of Random was quite high, but this really proves it. In order for us to log when the user *doesn't* tap on something, we would need a true "session" funnel where we note these kinds of details. I think we have the beginnings of this in Android, and I think we should flesh it out more and deploy it soon.
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Brian Gerstle < bgerstle@wikimedia.org> wrote:
+1 great question stephen. seeing all of this correlated with user sessions would be great so we can start to hone in on specific scenarios or use cases.
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Stephen Niedzielski < sniedzielski@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Wow! I was most surprised by random! Surfacing interesting > aggregated content sounds better and better. Any idea on what proportion of > users who didn't engage the menu at all is? > > --stephen > On Aug 25, 2015 8:23 AM, "Dmitry Brant" dbrant@wikimedia.org > wrote: > >> Ever wonder which Navigation menu items in our apps receive more >> taps than others? Well, wonder no more. Here's the breakdown, based on the >> numbers from the last ~3 weeks: >> >> For Android: >> >> [image: Inline image 1] >> >> And for iOS: >> >> [image: Inline image 2] >> >> Some takeaways from these data: >> - The rate of canceling the navigation menu is roughly the same on >> both platforms. >> - On iOS, the "Today" item is used nearly *three times* as much as >> it is on Android. >> - On Android, users care about Saved Pages twice as much as on iOS. >> - On both platforms, engagement with Nearby isn't nearly as high as >> I thought. >> >> >> >> https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/spreadsheets/d/1z0lzjAieNfx0OEHj-wTw... >> >> >> -- >> Dmitry Brant >> Mobile Apps Team (Android) >> Wikimedia Foundation >> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_mobile_engineering >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> reading-wmf mailing list >> reading-wmf@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/reading-wmf >> >> > _______________________________________________ > reading-wmf mailing list > reading-wmf@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/reading-wmf > >
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