On 04/26/2013 08:07 AM, Guillaume Paumier wrote: Happy to see this is happening, actually. What about http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Developing_an_official_app -- Quim Gil Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil

I'll use that thread as an opportunity to suggest something I've been thinking about lately and that is related not only to mobile. As it is now, all the documentation is available online. That is usually OK because nowadays we have Internet almost everywhere. However, we should remember that not all the world is like that. There are still countries where broadband connection is not that common. What if someone from such a country wants to work on MediaWiki or any of its extensions? It's very difficult for them to browse the documentation. Also, I found myself in a similar situation several times, e.g. on a plane or train without wireless Internet. What about making the documentation available offline? I thought about including it in the source tree, but I'm not sure how this could be done. Is there any tool we could use for that? If not, maybe we should write one? I'm not sure how much interest there might be in making the docs available offline. Perhaps we should start a separate thread on Wikitech? -- Juliusz On 04/26/2013 08:07 AM, Guillaume Paumier wrote:

Thanks so much for jumping in on this, Guillaume! As you can see by the list of dozens of redundant/obsolete pages, it's long overdue. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Guillaume Paumier <gpaumier(a)wikimedia.org>wrote;wrote: I can take a pass at this, but it would be really helpful to have some of the engineers (especially the ones who were around before I was on the mobile team) go through the list of pages and see if anything needs salvaging/archiving. Those of you with staff rights on your staff accounts should be able to delete pages (the option is in the top right drop-down tab next to the search bar); if you don't see "delete" as an option when you click on the drop-down, follow Thehelpfulone's instructions below and just add {{delete|Mobile pages cleanup}} to the top of the page, and I'll take care of the rest :) It would be good to have some time to do the deletion audit above, so maybe in a week or two? Thanks again, Guillaume. Hugely appreciated! -- Maryana Pinchuk Associate Product Manager, Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org

On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Guillaume Paumier <gpaumier(a)wikimedia.org>wrote;wrote: I've never been totally clear on the distinction between mediawiki.org and meta.wikimedia.org, but I've operated under the assumption that the former is for mediawiki-specific/related documentation (docs for extensions, projects related to mediawiki, etc) and that the latter was for things more... meta, like team-specific documentation. So, that's how I've tried to approach creating mobile-related pages. Personally, I think there is value in this divide - it provides a logical separation between teams and projects, which I think is a Good Thing for an open source project - people outside of the team can participate in the project, and people outside of the team probably don't really care about team-specific documentation (eg roles/responsibilities, meeting notes, etc). I understand that putting documentation in ONE place can also be enormously beneficial from the perspective of always knowing where to look; but we already won't have our documentation in one place - there's also wikitech, and some stuff on officewiki. So my preference would be to keep the divide of project-specific stuff on mediawiki, team-specific stuff on meta, ultra private stuff on office, architectural documentation on wikitech. If most of you really think centralizing *all* mobile documentation (projects, team, etc) in one place is a good idea, can someone try and convince me? -- Arthur Richards Software Engineer, Mobile [[User:Awjrichards]] IRC: awjr +1-415-839-6885 x6687