Hi Dan -- did you get a chance to write up your findings?
thanks,
-Toby
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Tomasz Finc <tfinc(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
I'll be eager to see you guys write up your
findings after the spikes are
over.
thanks for moving that forward.
--tomasz
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Gautam Chandna <gautamc(a)opera.com> wrote:
OEMs care about the size of their OS, as this is
stored in a restricted
read-only area (unless a device is rooted). Once the device is running,
those limitations don't apply as an app has tons of space to update
itself.
Quite like the network installer concept for desktop applications, OEMs
prefer if the pre-install is a small package that in itself doesn't
necessarily do much other than download the real app.
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:48 AM, Yuri Astrakhan <
yastrakhan(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
>
> Don't preload apps still get over-the-air updates, often the whole app
> re-download?
>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:39 AM, Carolynne Schloeder
> <cschloeder(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, yes app size and yes optimization :-)
>>
>> App size does matter
>> OEM's are sensitive to the size of the app for preload. They were
>> satisfied with our last version that was under 3MB; we'll find out
what they
>> will tolerate. And we will likely push
appstore promotion as part of
our
>> deep dive.[1]
>>
>> Couple of thoughts on optimization:
>> Yuri already worked to compress images on mobile web, only deployed on
>> zero partners so far. Rolling out the image compression could be an
easy
>> start to reduce the page load.
>>
>> In a couple of weeks, we will get into Facebook/Ericsson's network
>> simulation lab in Menlo Park, where we can experience our UX on low end
>> devices and slow networks.
>>
>> Dan and Maryana, can you help me organize who should go to the lab?
>>
>> Thanks --
>>
>> Carolynne
>>
>> [1] The Wikipedia Zero team is getting together with product, UX, comms
>> and GLEE to go deep in one country, to understand the context for
Wikipedia
>> usage and how we can unlock growth in
underserved market segments -
beyond
>> just making data free. More info in our
QR notes.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Dan Garry <dgarry(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
>>>
>>> On 1 February 2015 at 14:48, Toby Negrin <tnegrin(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dan -- can you please limit the scope to sizing the android app? I
>>>> think that's more relevant to reaching people in the developing
world.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think that depends. In a world where we're focussing on preloads,
the
>>> size of the app is pretty immaterial
as the user isn't paying the
cost for
>>> downloading it. In that world, the
best optimisations to make are
probably
>>> reducing network traffic and
improving performance on slower devices,
things
>>> where there's lot of room for
improvement in our code base. Also, our
>>> Android app is also an order of magnitude smaller than Facebook's
Android
>>> app, so that's less of an issue
for us. Facebook evidently decided to
TACKLE
>>> ALL THE THINGS with Facebook Lite.
>>>
>>>> Also, can you see what percent of our GS traffic uses 2.3? Google has
>>>> it at about 10% globally but we need to understand our target market
better.
>>>> You might also want to check in
with your new contact at App Annie
to see if
>> they have useful GS data.
>
>
> Absolutely.
>
> Dan
>
> --
> Dan Garry
> Associate Product Manager, Mobile Apps
> Wikimedia Foundation
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