There's a great set of recorded hangouts between Kent Beck, Martin Fowler, and DHH titled "Is TDD dead?": http://martinfowler.com/articles/is-tdd-dead/

As with that talk, I'd highly encourage you to take the time to watch them.

–Sam

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Corey Floyd <cfloyd@wikimedia.org> wrote:
This is from a while back, but I finally got around to watching it. I think it is a really good questioning of our assumptions around testing (and of course it is a controversial talk - it is DHH)

To me, the TL;DR was: 

- The main goal of writing code should be creating maintainable code with clear intent. 
- While unit testing is good, it is not a panacea for planning good architecture or system testing. 
- Good unit testing coverage will not spontaneously birth good architecture and at times it can even work against code clarity.  
- System testing is a better representation of how our code works 
- Unit testing should support our goals, and not become a goal in and of it self.

I highly encourage everyone to carve out some time to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LfmrkyP81M

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Corey Floyd
Software Engineer 
Mobile Apps / iOS 
Wikimedia Foundation

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