I'm meeting with Arthur in person on Thursday, this is something we'll discuss. 
-Chris 


On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Tomasz Finc <tfinc@wikimedia.org> wrote:
I'm interested to see if you guys have figured out a next time to meet.

On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Željko Filipin <zfilipin@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Hi Arthur,
>
> I think the only good way to move forward is to schedule regular pairing
> sessions consisting of a person familiar with browser automation (Chris or
> me) and somebody that wants to learn more about it.
>
> I pair with Niklas and Amir (added to cc) from language team twice weekly.
> Each pairing session lasts about two hours. (To make it explicit, I pair
> with them separately, not all three of us together in one session.) In just
> a week or two we made all language Jenkins jobs[1][2][3] almost rock solid.
> (We are still not there, but we are really really close.) We pair for 4
> weeks or so and they have seriously improved their browser automation
> skills.
>
> A pairing session consists of reviewing code that is waiting to get merged,
> checking if any of the Jenkins jobs failed (and fixing them if needed),
> refactoring old tests and writing new ones.
>
> If you (yes, you!) want to pair with me (or Chris), let us know. Since I am
> in a time zone 9 hours ahead of you, if you want to pair with me, a good
> time would be as early in your day as possible. Since Chris is in your time
> zone, it would probably be easier for you to arrange pairing sessions with
> him, if he is available.
>
> Another option would be to organize a workshop(s) that more people could
> attend, but I vote for pairing.
>
> Željko
> --
> 1: https://wmf.ci.cloudbees.com/view/r-tr/
> 2: https://wmf.ci.cloudbees.com/view/r-tw/
> 3: https://wmf.ci.cloudbees.com/view/r-uls/
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Arthur Richards <arichards@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> The 'Feature: Footer links resolve' test fails because the Terms of Use
>> link on enwiki on betalabs points to m.wikimediafoundation.org - which does
>> not exist. The link is correct in production. So either there is a
>> configuration issue on betalabs, or there's been a code change that makes
>> the footer link point to m.wikimediafoundation.org, which we should fix ASAP
>> before it finds its way to enwiki.
>>
>> The 'Feature: Footer links resolve' test fails, but when I follow the
>> scenario manually, I see the tutorial. Does the test need updating?
>>
>> Same thing with the 'Create Article.Create Article' test.
>>
>> I fear the false positives/broken tests make it easy to not see real (or
>> potentially real) issues and as people regularly see the test failure
>> emails, they get ignored. What needs to be done to clean this up?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:49 PM, <jenkins-no-reply@cloudbees.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> See
>>> <https://wmf.ci.cloudbees.com/job/MobileFrontend-en.m.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox/142/changes>
>>>
>>> Changes:
>>>
>>> [cmcmahon] fix notification  overlay automation test
>>>
>>> [maxsem.wiki] Bug 56704: Allow mobileview api to handle section ranges
>>>
>>> [jrobson] Make debug=true work again
>>>
>>> [l10n-bot] Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------
>>> Started by timer
>>> Building remotely on s-c60f2019 in workspace
>>> <https://wmf.ci.cloudbees.com/job/MobileFrontend-en.m.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox/ws/>
>>> Cloning the remote Git repository
>>> Cloning repository
>>> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend
>>> git --version
>>> git version 1.7.11.7
>>> Checking out Revision 6babf4376db1bed8005169d496f6d94424855f9a
>>> (origin/master)
>>> [MobileFrontend-en.m.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox] $ /bin/sh
>>> -xe /tmp/hudson151044989842042353.sh
>>> + export MEDIAWIKI_USER=Selenium_user
>>> + MEDIAWIKI_USER=Selenium_user
>>> + export
>>> MEDIAWIKI_PASSWORD_VARIABLE=MEDIAWIKI_PASSWORD_SELENIUM_USER_WMFLABS_ORG
>>> +
>>> MEDIAWIKI_PASSWORD_VARIABLE=MEDIAWIKI_PASSWORD_SELENIUM_USER_WMFLABS_ORG
>>> + export BROWSER_LABEL=firefox
>>> + BROWSER_LABEL=firefox
>>> + export MEDIAWIKI_URL=http://en.m.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/
>>> + MEDIAWIKI_URL=http://en.m.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/
>>> + curl -s -o use-ruby
>>> https://repository-cloudbees.forge.cloudbees.com/distributions/ci-addons/ruby/use-ruby
>>> + RUBY_VERSION=2.0.0-p247
>>> + source ./use-ruby
>>> ++ [[ -z 2.0.0-p247 ]]
>>> ++ ruby187='1.8.7-*'
>>> ++ [[ 2.0.0-p247 == 1.8.7-* ]]
>>> ++ BASE=/scratch/jenkins/addons
>>> ++ mkdir -p /scratch/jenkins/addons
>>> ++ '[' '!' -f /scratch/jenkins/addons/use.sh ']'
>>> ++ . /scratch/jenkins/addons/use.sh
>>> ++ mkdir -p /scratch/jenkins/addons/ruby
>>> +++ addon_architecture
>>> +++ uname -m
>>> ++ ruby_name=ruby-2.0.0-p247-x86_64
>>> ++ '[' '!' -f /scratch/jenkins/addons/ruby/ruby-2.0.0-p247-x86_64.tar.bz2
>>> ']'
>>> ++ '[' '!' -f
>>> /scratch/jenkins/addons/ruby/ruby-2.0.0-p247-x86_64/bin/ruby ']'
>>> ++ export RUBY_HOME=/scratch/jenkins/addons/ruby/ruby-2.0.0-p247-x86_64
>>> ++ RUBY_HOME=/scratch/jenkins/addons/ruby/ruby-2.0.0-p247-x86_64
>>> ++ export
>>> PATH=/scratch/jenkins/addons/ruby/ruby-2.0.0-p247-x86_64/bin:/opt/jdk/latest/bin:/usr/lib64/qt-3.3/bin:/usr/lib64/ccache:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/opt/maven/latest/bin:/opt/ant/latest/bin:/opt/android/android-sdk-linux/tools:/opt/gradle/latest/bin:/home/jenkins/bin:/opt/jdk/jdk.latest/bin
>>> ++
>>> PATH=/scratch/jenkins/addons/ruby/ruby-2.0.0-p247-x86_64/bin:/opt/jdk/latest/bin:/usr/lib64/qt-3.3/bin:/usr/lib64/ccache:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/opt/maven/latest/bin:/opt/ant/latest/bin:/opt/android/android-sdk-linux/tools:/opt/gradle/latest/bin:/home/jenkins/bin:/opt/jdk/jdk.latest/bin
>>> ++ unset GEM_PATH
>>> ++ unset GEM_HOME
>>> ++ unset BUNDLE_PATH
>>> + gem install bundler --no-ri --no-rdoc
>>> Successfully installed bundler-1.3.5
>>> 1 gem installed
>>> + '[' -d tests/browser/ ']'
>>> + cd tests/browser/
>>> + bundle install
>>> Using builder (3.2.2)
>>> Using ffi (1.9.3)
>>> Using childprocess (0.3.9)
>>> Using diff-lcs (1.2.4)
>>> Using multi_json (1.8.2)
>>> Using gherkin (2.12.2)
>>> Using multi_test (0.0.2)
>>> Using cucumber (1.3.8)
>>> Using i18n (0.6.5)
>>> Using faker (1.2.0)
>>> Using yml_reader (0.2)
>>> Using data_magic (0.16.1)
>>> Using json (1.8.1)
>>> Using net-http-persistent (2.9)
>>> Using page_navigation (0.9)
>>> Using rubyzip (1.0.0)
>>> Using websocket (1.0.7)
>>> Using selenium-webdriver (2.37.0)
>>> Using watir-webdriver (0.6.4)
>>> Using page-object (0.9.3)
>>> Using mime-types (2.0)
>>> Using rest-client (1.6.7)
>>> Using rspec-expectations (2.14.3)
>>> Using syntax (1.0.0)
>>> Using mediawiki-selenium (0.1.12)
>>> Using bundler (1.3.5)
>>> Your bundle is complete!
>>> Use `bundle show [gemname]` to see where a bundled gem is installed.
>>> + bundle exec cucumber --verbose --profile ci
>>> Code:
>>>   * features/support/env.rb
>>>   * features/support/hooks.rb
>>>   * features/support/modules/url_module.rb
>>>   * features/support/pages/article_page.rb
>>>   * features/support/pages/beta_page.rb
>>>   * features/support/pages/create_article_page.rb
>>>   * features/support/pages/create_user_page.rb
>>>   * features/support/pages/edit_page.rb
>>>   * features/support/pages/home_page.rb
>>>   * features/support/pages/language_page.rb
>>>   * features/support/pages/login_page.rb
>>>   * features/support/pages/notification_page.rb
>>>   * features/support/pages/random_page.rb
>>>   * features/support/pages/search_page.rb
>>>   * features/support/pages/uploads_page.rb
>>>   * features/step_definitions/common_steps.rb
>>>   * features/step_definitions/create_article_steps.rb
>>>   * features/step_definitions/external_links_steps.rb
>>>   * features/step_definitions/footer_steps.rb
>>>   * features/step_definitions/header_logged_in_steps.rb
>>>   * features/step_definitions/header_steps.rb
>>>   * features/step_definitions/image_resolves_steps.rb
>>>   * features/step_definitions/language_steps.rb
>>>   * features/step_definitions/login_required_uploads_steps.rb
>>>   * features/step_definitions/login_required_watchlist_steps.rb
>>>   * features/step_definitions/menu_opens_page_steps.rb
>>>   * features/step_definitions/notification_steps.rb
>>>   * features/step_definitions/random_ua_steps.rb
>>>   * features/step_definitions/search_steps.rb
>>>   * features/step_definitions/uploads_steps.rb
>>>   * features/step_definitions/watchlist_steps.rb
>>>
>>> Features:
>>>   * features/create_article.feature
>>>   * features/external_links.feature
>>>   * features/footer.feature
>>>   * features/footer_logged_in.feature
>>>   * features/header.feature
>>>   * features/header_logged_in.feature
>>>   * features/image_resolves.feature
>>>   * features/language.feature
>>>   * features/language_logged_in.feature
>>>   * features/login_required_uploads.feature
>>>   * features/login_required_watchlist.feature
>>>   * features/menu_opens_page.feature
>>>   * features/notification.feature
>>>   * features/random_ua.feature
>>>   * features/search.feature
>>>   * features/uploads.feature
>>>   * features/watchlist.feature
>>> Parsing feature files took 0m0.050s
>>>
>>> Build step 'Execute shell' marked build as failure
>>> Recording test results
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Arthur Richards
>> Software Engineer, Mobile
>> [[User:Awjrichards]]
>> IRC: awjr
>> +1-415-839-6885 x6687
>
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