On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Quim Gil <quim.gil@nokia.com> wrote:
On Fri, 2011-04-15 at 15:30 -0700, ext Brion Vibber wrote:
> Indeed, it seems like the main problem on these sorts of things is
> that we Americans have no idea where or how to get them. No sales
> channels, no seeing them in use on the street, no access to test
> devices. :(

True. Series 40 devices are typically sold unlocked through retailers,
getting the data plan from them or somewhere else. This is quite normal
in Europe, Asia and Africa, but not at all in the USA. Still you can get
them at least through nokiausa.com or Amazon.

Aho, and indeed there they are hiding. :D We should make sure we've at least got one in the SF office here. (Tomasz do you wanna look into that or shall I just order one on a whim? They're cheap! :D)
As said, if someone needs a Series 40 developer device for testing I can
help. The SDK is free: http://www.forum.nokia.com/Develop/Web/

Spiff, we'll see if there's an SDK emu for now...

-- brion


> -- brion
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Quim Gil <quim.gil@nokia.com> wrote:
>         Summary: I can get a couple of Series 40 developer devices for
>         contributors of Wikimedia mobile projects for this platform.
>         Most of the discussion about Wikimedia mobile projects tends
>         to default
>         to high-end devices. We definitely need to address those, but
>         we
>         shouldn't forget about Internet enabled devices pointing to
>         lower price
>         points.
>         A good example of this distortion is Nokia Series 40. It's the
>         platform
>         selling by far more mobile devices in the world (hundreds of
>         millions),
>         yet it hardly gets a decent page in Wikipedia ;)
>         http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_40
>         Anyway, there are some good developer news coming from this
>         platform:
>         Ovi Browser - a proxy browser for efficient data usage
>         http://www.forum.nokia.com/Develop/Web/Ovi_Browser/
>         Series 40 Web Apps
>         http://www.forum.nokia.com/Develop/Web/Series_40_web_apps/ &
>         http://www.forum.nokia.com/Develop/Web/
>         Our work in the new mobile gateway should pay attention to
>         this browser
>         and Opera mini, the main choices of Series 40 Internet users.
>         It would
>         be also great if web developers (HTML/CSS/Javascript) would
>         step in with
>         ideas for mobile apps targeting Series 40 (this morning I was
>         thinking
>         how trivial would be to develop a Wikinews app).
>         If you have a convincing plan I can help you getting a
>         developer device
>         for your work.
>         For those of you not knowing Series 40 check this gallery:
>         http://www.forum.nokia.com/Devices/Device_specifications/?filter2=s40
>         We are talking about devices with mobile browser, many of them
>         location
>         aware, equipped with camera, with support for dozens of
>         languages also
>         in Asia and Africa, able to play music and video (Ogg support
>         might be
>         tricky though). The price range is very diverse but to give
>         you an idea
>         the price of the Internet enabled devices goes around 100€
>         (full price,
>         no contract). For many people these devices are the first (and
>         frequently only) tool to access the Internet.
>         Nokia plans to sell a billion Series 40 Internet enabled
>         devices, and
>         other companies (most Europeans and Americans have never heard
>         of) are
>         also incresing the sales in this competitive segment in
>         countries like
>         India, China and surroundings. The good news is that (with
>         some tuning)
>         your web apps will probably work on those as well, as well as
>         on the
>         higher end platforms.
>         --
>         Quim
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