Hey Derk-Jan,

Thanks for chiming in. It's great to have your input.

On 8 April 2015 at 23:22, Derk-Jan Hartman <d.j.hartman+wmf_ml@gmail.com> wrote:

This is me waving my red flag and telling you that you are walking into/picking a huge fight with ‘the community’. You can’t win anything here, there will only be losers.

As a long time community member myself, I am aware of how contentious this change is. But I disagree that there will only be losers, as there are plenty of readers who will benefit from the change.

If you want to convince users that something needs to be done here, you should consider handing tools to the community to detect that something is wrong. Like https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File_metadata_cleanup_drive

I'd love to solve this more systematically. What are your suggestions for how we could do that? We've not had much luck thinking of any so far.

Dan

Dan Garry

Associate Product Manager, Mobile Apps

Wikimedia Foundation