No, I'm not sure what does mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop do for Flow.

I was referring to rendering of Flow on mobile websites, for example https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:CX or https://he.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Amire80 .

Trying it on an actual phone gives the best effect.

Though there certainly are some issues ( https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93430 ), Flow pages work FAR better on phones than the classic talk pages.

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2015-07-22 11:58 GMT-05:00 Adam Baso <abaso@wikimedia.org>:

Amir, are you referring to use of the inbuilt "desktop" mode of Flow, such as https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:MediaWiki?mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop ?

-Adam

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:

It's probably a dilettante-ish comment, but for a while already Flow has been working quite well on mobile web, incomparably better than the old talk pages, and it could be Flow's biggest "selling point". My intuition tells me that work to support talk pages on mobile should focus more on Flow and less on the old talk pages.

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2015-07-22 10:12 GMT-05:00 Adam Baso <abaso@wikimedia.org>:

Moving discussion to mobile-l. 

On Wednesday, July 22, 2015, Michael Holloway <mholloway@wikimedia.org> wrote:

OK by me.  

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Adam Baso <abaso@wikimedia.org> wrote:

Okay to move this discussion to mobile-l?

I'm talking with Editing (includes VE and Flow) this morning about engagement model and their short to medium term roadmap, which should be helpful in your guys' examination of bridge/stopgap solutions for this pretty fundamental stuff. 

On Wednesday, July 22, 2015, Michael Holloway <mholloway@wikimedia.org> wrote:

Hey all,

Last week at Wikimania I had some interesting conversations about the Android app.  On the whole, people really like the new and improved app, but there are definitely frustrations with the editing experience -- from people thinking it's not possible to edit in the app, to uninstalling it so that Google links direct them to the mobile website, where they vastly prefer the editing experience.  Editors are a small but important group and I don't think we're doing them justice at the moment.  Although reading is our focus, I would suggest we devote some resources to improving the editing experience as well.  (It turns out that Abbey Ripstra and the design research team are running a survey research study on mobile contribution experiences as I write, so I'll be interested to hear what insights they have to offer.)

I also had a conversation with Asaf Bartov, who mentioned that it would be nice to be able to access talk pages in the mobile app.  I'm sympathetic to this; most users may not care about talk pages, but they're very important to the editing experience, and even for savvy readers they offer useful commentary about what's on (or off) the page and why.  So yesterday afternoon I hacked up a POC patch to add a toolbar button to flip back and forth between main articles and talk pages.  Have a look and let me know what you think!

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/226297/

Cheers,

Michael

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