Jon,

Re: Pau's work around CX (content translation editing) - we are looking specifically in a couple of areas that may relate:

a. Making the users editing experience easier (reading, editing) for non European languages (e.g. RTL, Indic, CJK) with a first-class UX on tablets and desktops in mind

b. Providing aids such as dictionaries, terminology glossaries, spellcheckers as tools in languages beyond English to help the editing experience

Both of these areas could be leveraged in the editing experience / edit summaries functionality you are looking at :-)

HTH.

Best,
Alolita

Alolita Sharma
आलोलिता शर्मा
Director of Engineering 
Internationalization & Localization
Wikimedia Foundation


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Jon Robson <jdlrobson@gmail.com> wrote:
Alolita - can you elaborate? I'm not sure how this demo from Pau relates..

Vibha, tags and autocomplete forms are 2 very different things so I'm
a little confused what you are saying - you are saying there will be
both?

I worry tags will encourage laziness and on the long term not very
useful summaries for poor wiki patrollers. There are other ways to
educate e.g. help icon that elaborates or "see some examples".

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Alolita Sharma <asharma@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Jon,
>
> Please also check out Pau's prototype design on the Content Translation
> Editor (which Language Eng is working on currently) for multilingual
> translation/editing.
>
> http://pauginer.github.io/prototype-translate/content-translation.html#mies-sq
>
>
> Best,
> Alolita
>
> Alolita Sharma
> आलोलिता शर्मा
> Director of Engineering
> Internationalization & Localization
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Vibha Bamba <vbamba@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>
>> Jon,
>> Agree with you here.
>> Designs are up on the Trello board for now. I don't know that we are
>> posting them anywhere else for apps.
>>
>> Regarding the edit summary -
>> We decided to make this a regular input field with tags as suggestion, so
>> a new user isn't quite lost about what to say here.
>> Along with providing help at the start, having these in tag/autocomplete
>> form makes it faster so a user doesn't have to type them in or even wonder
>> how to describe their small change.
>>
>> Key things the guide text needs to do is
>> -Explain when and why an edit summary is useful
>> -Provide some quick actionable examples
>> -If you added key information, or edited a large amount, provide
>> specificity about what you did.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Vibha
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Jon Robson <jdlrobson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The app team showed a demo to the mobile web team today of the latest
>>> editing experience for the new Wikipedia app that is being worked on.
>>> The mobile app editing experience was very consistent with mobile web
>>> which is a great thing, that said it had one significant difference -
>>> canned edit summaries.
>>>
>>> The interface showed various buttons that when clicked would populate
>>> the edit summary input. e.g. "Fixed typos/grammar" or "Added links")
>>>
>>> I wanted to discuss whether this is a good idea?
>>>
>>> If the goal is to give ideas to users on what they can do to edit, we
>>> should be doing that at the start of the workflow in my opinion - tell
>>> a new user what they can, give them a better idea using the article
>>> issues templates.
>>>
>>> If the goal is to make the users editing experience easier (which it
>>> should be), personally I think it would be more useful to have an
>>> autocomplete that allows an editor to recycle older edit summaries.
>>>
>>> PS. Is there a link to a wiki page for these designs, so other people
>>> can see what I'm talking about?
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