@Brian - yeah lets discus schedule sometime soon - I prefer to hold off until we get more of the 5.0 UI built so we don't split focus. This could be a rabbit hole and really isn't needed for 5.0 until we get closer to shipping.

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Bernd Sitzmann <bernd@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Brian:

If you want this to be automated then you could let l10n-bot just do them. This implies automatic merging as well.

If not then you should submit a ticket to the translatewiki.net Phab project to get ssh access to translatewiki.net for yourself.

I just split up the instructions for TWN sync between Android and iOS. The iOS part will need to be updated further for the Github parts. Stephen is going to take over the TWN sync for Android.

Cheers,
Bernd

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Brian Gerstle <bgerstle@wikimedia.org> wrote:
+mobile-l

Corey: Using existing infra for 4.1.7 is fine. Just to be clear, I think we should do this as simply (even manually) as possible to avoid expanding scope of this to include automating it just yet.

Given that we don't (currently) plan on doing another 4.y.z release after 4.1.7 and before 5.0, I suggest that we get translations hooked up to 5.0 immediately after 4.1.7.  This follows the same rationale behind syncing master & 5.0 branches after 4.1.7 and will prevent future translations from targeting obsolete strings or being hard to port over.

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Adam Baso <abaso@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Okay to move this discussion to mobile-l now?

On Wednesday, July 22, 2015, Corey Floyd <cfloyd@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Since the existing infrastructure is still working for 4.1.7 and we already have the patches ready to go, we should just get it merged. 

Agree that we need to get to this, but I think it would be less disruptive to deal with this as part of 5.0, rather than add development time to a legacy bug fix release. 5.0 will have new language keys and (likely) a new directory structure anyways.

Let plan on discussing translation impacts on 5.0 after we get moved to Github. That we we have our new CI setup in place before making any Phab tasks.



On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 6:20 AM, Brian Gerstle <bgerstle@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Correct, the ticket for the transfer has been filed. My (potentially naive) assumption is that, based on the docs, we can at least use the current "export" step to apply localization updates locally, then push a commit or pull request manually (at least for now).
Assuming this is feasible, we should be able to take ownership of TWN sync independent of when we switch to GH.

Corey, what do you think of TWN ownership (and sync) as part of releasing 4.1.7?  We've been kicking this can down the road for a while, so I like the idea of making the next TWN sync one we run ourselves.

As far as when the switch will happen, I still need to work that out with Corey to make sure we've thought through (and hopefully avoided) any potential negative impact on our ability to deliver 5.0 in Q1.  My rough estimate is that moving to GH and hooking up Travis should only be a couple days work, just need to talk through it & prioritize the tasks in the backlog.

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Bernd Sitzmann <bernd@wikimedia.org> wrote:
That would be fine with me. As long as the TWN guys don't have a problem with that to have multiple points of contact that would work nicely.

When is the Github move going to happen?

Bernd

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Corey Floyd <cfloyd@wikimedia.org> wrote:
I think Bran wants us to take ownership for the iOS translations anyways. Since we are moving to github, this may be a good time to handoff.

@Brian what are you thinking here? Too soon to think about until we get closer on 5.0 or do you want to start making some plans?

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Bernd Sitzmann <bernd@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Brian,

I was just was thinking about TWN syncs and remembered your comment that iOS is moving to Github soon. When you do let me and Stephen know since Stephen is going to take over TWN sync in the future.

The current TWN sync process[1] is based on Gerrit but I think Nikerabbit said they would be able to handle Github as well[2]. Still it does mean some change for TWN sync on our side. We would need to inquire with the TWN folks (Nikerabbit and Siebrand) how this should be done with Github (the setup needs some changes, at least a new Git remote, and the repocommit command needs to change or be replaced by an alternate command as well).

Bernd




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