I think the point is that it's unrealistic to expect people to handle this on the "client side" and they should "opt in" for those notifications/messages by joining that channel (i.e. separating events on the server side, so it applies to all clients).On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Bahodir Mansurov <bmansurov@wikimedia.org> wrote:I use LimeChat, but haven’t tried hard enough to filter out bots. I don’t mind creating a new channel and directing bots there. XChat advanced settings related to “Text Events”, which maybe what you want. Not sure about the backlog support though.On Apr 30, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Joaquin Oltra Hernandez <jhernandez@wikimedia.org> wrote:What client are you using baha?Jon, Ori told me that limechat can hide messages based on regexes. I poked around it and searched google but found nothing useful and he didn't reply on irc so I'm not sure which dark secrets he holds :PWould you mind having another channel open with the notifications? We should expect all team members to autojoin that channel when working too.Bryan that's exactly what I'd like. Direct the bots to other channels and join those if you want the notifications. I personally will because I find them very useful.Baha the reality is not that easy. I want backlog so I've moved to the irccloud chat, and there I can only ignore users. The problem is that I find wikibugs and grrrit-wm very useful and I don't want to hide them, I want to separate them to another channel. This way for activity and notifications I'll join the notifications channel, and in the main channel I'll be able to read and have conversations with people without tons of noise.On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Jon Robson <jdlrobson@gmail.com> wrote:I personally detest them now I am working with mostly a remote team.
They are useful occasionally but not missing messages from team
members is far too important for me.
I've not found a good way to filter these out (look at the pink lines
that mean pings in my irc client - http://imgur.com/MsYk9OO)
I've also noticed an increase in private conversations recently to
compensate for this which sucks for openness.
A compromise to reduce noise might be:
* don't include name of author in patch submits/phabricator tasks
reported by the bot (so that author doesn't get pings that mask other
pings from other users) - but someone would have to implement this.
I think moving to a new channel seems like an easy solution. Nothing
gets missed provided people know to join it and nothing needs to be
implemented.
Jon Robson
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Bahodir Mansurov
<bmansurov@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> I think they should stay and everyone should be able to configure their
> client to hide specific message from showing.
>
> On Apr 30, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Brian Gerstle <bgerstle@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> Totally agree, having *important messages only* in IRC would be nice.
> Another idea would be to have notifs go to more specific chat rooms based on
> the project.
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Corey Floyd <cfloyd@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>
>> I think this is a good idea… the only thing I think should be in the main
>> channel is something like breaking the build (at least for the apps guys)
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Joaquin Oltra Hernandez
>> <jhernandez@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> I've been feeling that the signal to noise ratio on #wikimedia-mobile
>>> since the addition of wikibugs and our new apps engineers (more grrrit-wm
>>> spam) is turning to be 0 (that is, no signal because of too much noise).
>>>
>>> It is really difficult to talk about anything when somebody else is
>>> working (and that is what we do, so...).
>>>
>>> I would like to propose moving the machines to a different channel, maybe
>>> a couple of them ( #wikimedia-mobile-web-bots & #wikimedia-mobile-apps-bots
>>> for example ) so that they continue to be useful but in a different channel,
>>> and so that we can read again the chats with just the conversations.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> Cheers.
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