Thanks so much for sharing. That series was a long haul but I found it
really insightful, definitely time well spent.

A few lessons I took away from it:
 - TDD is just one of many ways to get continuous feedback on your
code. If it doesn't fit the use case, don't force it.
 - If you're trying out TDD, don't get too hung up on the "driven"
aspect of it. It doesn't strictly mean red/green/refactor.
 - Don't trip on % coverage.
 - Tests are just as subjectively written as the rest of your code.
Don't test yourself into a false bubble, a tautological hellscape of
antipatterns (however you want to put it :).

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Brian Gerstle <bgerstle@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> +1 for the follow-up of the "Is TDD Dead?"
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Sam Smith <samsmith@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>
>> There's a great set of recorded hangouts between Kent Beck, Martin Fowler,
>> and DHH titled "Is TDD dead?": http://martinfowler.com/articles/is-tdd-dead/
>>
>> As with that talk, I'd highly encourage you to take the time to watch
>> them.
>>
>> –Sam
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Corey Floyd <cfloyd@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is from a while back, but I finally got around to watching it. I
>>> think it is a really good questioning of our assumptions around testing (and
>>> of course it is a controversial talk - it is DHH)
>>>
>>> To me, the TL;DR was:
>>>
>>> - The main goal of writing code should be creating maintainable code with
>>> clear intent.
>>> - While unit testing is good, it is not a panacea for planning good
>>> architecture or system testing.
>>> - Good unit testing coverage will not spontaneously birth good
>>> architecture and at times it can even work against code clarity.
>>> - System testing is a better representation of how our code works
>>> - Unit testing should support our goals, and not become a goal in and of
>>> it self.
>>>
>>> I highly encourage everyone to carve out some time to watch.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LfmrkyP81M
>>>
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