Exactly.

According to click tracking the settings page gets 200 clicks a day
(compared to Watchlist which gets around 5K) - although note this
clicktracking is only limited to users of high end phones (requires
JavaScript). I think these metrics would be very useful to have and
would let us get a better idea of our users.

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Adam Baso <abaso@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> You're talking about having the origin servers take POSTs and make a backend
> event logging call, right? As opposed to a pure JavaScript event logging
> solution. I believe that doing it with origin servers hitting event logging
> would be ideal for ensuring that data is captured for both devices without
> JS support adequate for JS-driven event logging, as well as those with it.
>
> Argh, decimal placement problem on my side.The usage of
> Special:MobileOptions is actually much lower. Here are comparisons of
> Wikipedia Zero m.wikipedia versus general m.wikipedia, based on 20140310 log
> data.
>
> Wikipedia Zero m.wikipedia:
> Special:MobileOptions as percent of "pageviews" (text/html content served) -
> 0.09%
> POST divided by sum of POST and GET on Special:MobileOptions: 24.8%
>
> General m.wikipedia:
> Special:MobileOptions as percent of "pageviews" (text/html content served) -
> 0.02%
> POST divided by sum of POST and GET on Special:MobileOptions: 19.9%
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Jon Robson <jdlrobson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Poke.
>> I'm no sure if it's safe to add a new data point, but I'd love to know
>> the answer to this question. Alternatively we could use EventLogging
>> on the server side to log people that disable images (as well as those
>> that opt in and out of beta). I think it's a useful component to have
>> on mobile especially for the Zero case but if we can avoid using it in
>> mobile web I think this is a good idea.
>>
>> I created a story
>> https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/mobile/cards/1757
>> in the hope we might explore this.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Adam Baso <abaso@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> > Good question. I think we'd need to log this origin side, and look at
>> > percentage usage on mdot in general and usage percentage on mdot for
>> > Wikipedia Zero and see the results and see if there's any measurable
>> > difference.
>> >
>> > Is it safe to add this data point via MobileFrontend's existing DOMParse
>> > wfDebugLog call? Or should we add an additional wfDebugLog statement
>> > right
>> > below it?
>> >
>> > As an aside, I noticed that of the 1% of "pageviews" on Wikipedia Zero
>> > for
>> > Special:MobileOptions, three-fourths are GETs and one-fourth are POSTs
>> > (POSTs seem to be issued irrespective of JavaScript support if the user
>> > hits
>> > "Save"). As "Images (On|Off)" is the only option currently shown on
>> > Wikipedia Zero for users who get to Special:MobileOptions, we can
>> > somewhat
>> > safely say that on a given day we're talking an upper bound of maybe 500
>> > users who (optionally) toggle the On | Off switch and (by implication)
>> > hit
>> > "Save" on a given day. As to whether the cookie persists, particularly
>> > in
>> > the Off state, and whether that translates to a nontrivial number of
>> > no-images pageviews, the origin-side logging will tell the fuller story,
>> > I
>> > suppose.
>> >
>> > -Adam
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Jon Robson <jdlrobson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Adam, I am interested in who uses the feature "Images" on
>> >> Special:MobileOptions which sets a cookie disabling images. I'm not
>> >> sure how page views to Special:MobileOptions is related. Is it
>> >> possible to see % of page views where the "disableImages" cookie is
>> >> set? This would give a better indication of how widely used this
>> >> feature is....
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Adam Baso <abaso@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> >> > Based on the 20140302 W0 logfile it looks like Special:MobileOptions
>> >> > constitutes about 1% of "pageviews" (not the bulletproof definition,
>> >> > but
>> >> > a
>> >> > good enough one).
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Tomasz Finc <tfinc@wikimedia.org>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We added it specifically for Zero back in the day. Should be easy
>> >> >> enough to measure and get into a sprint.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Jon Robson <jdlrobson@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > On this page -
>> >> >> > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileOptions
>> >> >> > -
>> >> >> > it is possible to disable images across the mobile site.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > How many people actually use this (outside Zero)? Can we get some
>> >> >> > data?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I personally think we should explore killing this feature as an
>> >> >> > option
>> >> >> > and leave it to the browser to take care of...
>> >> >> >
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