You're talking about having the origin servers take POSTs and make a backend event logging call, right? As opposed to a pure JavaScript event logging solution. I believe that doing it with origin servers hitting event logging would be ideal for ensuring that data is captured for both devices without JS support adequate for JS-driven event logging, as well as those with it.

Argh, decimal placement problem on my side.The usage of Special:MobileOptions is actually much lower. Here are comparisons of Wikipedia Zero m.wikipedia versus general m.wikipedia, based on 20140310 log data.

Wikipedia Zero m.wikipedia:
Special:MobileOptions as percent of "pageviews" (text/html content served) - 0.09%
POST divided by sum of POST and GET on Special:MobileOptions: 24.8%

General m.wikipedia:
Special:MobileOptions as percent of "pageviews" (text/html content served) - 0.02%
POST divided by sum of POST and GET on Special:MobileOptions: 19.9%


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Jon Robson <jdlrobson@gmail.com> wrote:
Poke.
I'm no sure if it's safe to add a new data point, but I'd love to know
the answer to this question. Alternatively we could use EventLogging
on the server side to log people that disable images (as well as those
that opt in and out of beta). I think it's a useful component to have
on mobile especially for the Zero case but if we can avoid using it in
mobile web I think this is a good idea.

I created a story
https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/mobile/cards/1757
in the hope we might explore this.


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Adam Baso <abaso@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Good question. I think we'd need to log this origin side, and look at
> percentage usage on mdot in general and usage percentage on mdot for
> Wikipedia Zero and see the results and see if there's any measurable
> difference.
>
> Is it safe to add this data point via MobileFrontend's existing DOMParse
> wfDebugLog call? Or should we add an additional wfDebugLog statement right
> below it?
>
> As an aside, I noticed that of the 1% of "pageviews" on Wikipedia Zero for
> Special:MobileOptions, three-fourths are GETs and one-fourth are POSTs
> (POSTs seem to be issued irrespective of JavaScript support if the user hits
> "Save"). As "Images (On|Off)" is the only option currently shown on
> Wikipedia Zero for users who get to Special:MobileOptions, we can somewhat
> safely say that on a given day we're talking an upper bound of maybe 500
> users who (optionally) toggle the On | Off switch and (by implication) hit
> "Save" on a given day. As to whether the cookie persists, particularly in
> the Off state, and whether that translates to a nontrivial number of
> no-images pageviews, the origin-side logging will tell the fuller story, I
> suppose.
>
> -Adam
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Jon Robson <jdlrobson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Adam, I am interested in who uses the feature "Images" on
>> Special:MobileOptions which sets a cookie disabling images. I'm not
>> sure how page views to Special:MobileOptions is related. Is it
>> possible to see % of page views where the "disableImages" cookie is
>> set? This would give a better indication of how widely used this
>> feature is....
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Adam Baso <abaso@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> > Based on the 20140302 W0 logfile it looks like Special:MobileOptions
>> > constitutes about 1% of "pageviews" (not the bulletproof definition, but
>> > a
>> > good enough one).
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Tomasz Finc <tfinc@wikimedia.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> We added it specifically for Zero back in the day. Should be easy
>> >> enough to measure and get into a sprint.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Jon Robson <jdlrobson@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > On this page - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileOptions
>> >> > -
>> >> > it is possible to disable images across the mobile site.
>> >> >
>> >> > How many people actually use this (outside Zero)? Can we get some
>> >> > data?
>> >> >
>> >> > I personally think we should explore killing this feature as an
>> >> > option
>> >> > and leave it to the browser to take care of...
>> >> >
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