On Wednesday, June 25, 2014, Yuvi Panda <yuvipanda@gmail.com> wrote:
I'll also note that siebrand -1's any change that uses 'article'
instead of page, and also that Android app uses page everywhere.

Yeah this is a general issue we need to resolve. We tried to use article in GettingStarted, an extension only deployed to Wikipedia, and Siebrand disabled translations in retaliation. We had to go back, set page as the default, then set an override to use article on Wikipedia. 


On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Adam Baso <abaso@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> ...that is to say, will hold off on the "page" / "article" sweeping changes.
> The patch as is is ready to go for this UX refinement pass. Monte's working
> on a mega patch on which we'll rebase my existing patch when it's time.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Adam Baso <abaso@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>
>> Per our face-to-face, the team's going to discuss this a bit more and
>> figure out approach. I'll hold off on verbiage changes until a direction is
>> determined.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Dan Garry <dgarry@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Agreed.
>>>
>>> Specifically for the wording of "saved pages", in Q1 2014 we'll probably
>>> be doing work on discussion pages and it's conceivable that people will want
>>> to save those for offline reading too.
>>>
>>> More generally, the app typically refers to pages as being "articles".
>>> Monte and I chatted about this briefly and that decision doesn't
>>> architecturally lock us in to having to refer to *all* pages as articles, so
>>> I think we're fine for now.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 25 June 2014, Moiz Syed <msyed@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I agree with Brion. Lets keep it consistent on both platforms. "Pages"
>>>> everywhere.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Brion Vibber <bvibber@wikimedia.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> IMO the Android and iOS apps should use the same wording except where
>>>>> there's differences in structure or OS-specific customs that would make them
>>>>> different (which I don't think is the case here).
>>>>>
>>>>> We've just released an Android app that says "Saved pages" in the menu,
>>>>> so unless we'd like to change that I'd say let's change iOS to match.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- brion
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Adam Baso <abaso@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was going to resubmit the patch below by updating the W0 and sidebar
>>>>>> verbiage, but I noticed the word "article" is used in lots of other places.
>>>>>> Okay if I make the changes in the other places for the actual string values
>>>>>> on the righthand side of the = operator? I don't really care to touch the
>>>>>> lefthand side keys of the messages at this point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Adam
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 7:05 AM, Siebrand (Code Review)
>>>>>> <gerrit@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Siebrand has posted comments on this change.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Change subject: Update W0 flourishes based on UX feedback for MVP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ......................................................................
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Patch Set 1:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (1 comment)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/141852/1/wikipedia/en.lproj/Localizable.strings
>>>>>>> File wikipedia/en.lproj/Localizable.strings:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Line 16: "zero-charged-verbiage-extended" = "Loading other articles
>>>>>>> may incur data charges. Saved articles stored offline do not use data and
>>>>>>> are free.";
>>>>>>> > Currently, the app sidebar says "Saved articles". Should the
>>>>>>> > sidebar say "S
>>>>>>> Yes, please use page consistently.
>>>>>>
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