Does it make sense to get rid of zero altogether? We could keep zero for the known IP ranges of our partners, but for everyone else do an automatic redirect to "m"?  And yes, I think we should get rid of "m" too, but that's a separate discussion.


On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:26 PM, Adam Baso <abaso@wikimedia.org> wrote:
All,

My mistake. The pages in Google's index that I used for sampling - the ones that have "Sorry, ..." in their description in Google search results - are cached pages. I assumed incorrectly that those pages were based on recent indexing (e.g., in the past few days).

I think we can actually stick to the original plan of Google re-indexing and the search results de-emphasizing the <language>.zero.wikipedia.org links within the next 30 days.

I still find it strange that there are <language>.zero.wikipedia.org links that turned up higher in the search engine rankings than their better-established <language>.wikipedia.org counterparts. But I suppose with fewer competing page elements, especially on long-tail articles with fewer or no direct links to the desktop page, this is maybe not totally unexpected.

-Adam




On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Adam Baso <abaso@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hello All,

We had shelved my patch, patch 64629, in hopes that an earlier patch, patch 61809 (bug 35233), would resolve the issue naturally as Google re-indexed. But it appears Google has re-indexed and yet the .zero.wikipedia.org URLs are still  present in Google's index, instead of the <language>.wikipedia.org URLs.

I have thus resubmitted patch 64629 for re-review. We will need to further discuss whether it is appropriate to have Google completely remove .zero.wikipedia.org links from their cache, or if perhaps we need to open a support thread with Google about canonical URLs.




On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Kul Wadhwa <kwadhwa@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Adam Baso (copied on this email) is working on it and a fix is ready. He'll do some testing to make sure it's resolved.

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Tomasz Finc <tfinc@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Looping Dan Foy in who's managing the Zero backlog.

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